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deCypher
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Re: Freedom [Re: Veritas]
#9109305 - 10/21/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who's to say that I don't only want what I can get?
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Veritas
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Re: Freedom [Re: deCypher]
#9109309 - 10/21/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter, you are still limited by your abilities, and not by your desires. The fact that they might be perfectly matched is irrelevant to the discussion of freedom, though quite important to a discussion of satisfaction.
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deCypher
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Re: Freedom [Re: Veritas]
#9109317 - 10/21/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can one be perfectly free and still unsatisfied?
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Lion
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Re: Freedom [Re: deCypher]
#9109378 - 10/21/08 11:50 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Cypher said: If something's too expensive, I'm perfectly free to steal it.
I try not to tie myself into a belief system.
Can you steal a personal jet, a vacation at an all expenses paid resort, a date with a supermodel?
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Veritas
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Re: Freedom [Re: deCypher]
#9109417 - 10/21/08 12:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sure, satisfaction is all in the mind, in the imagined discrepancy between what we have & what would be ideal. Since we are perfectly free to act within our abilities (so long as we don't mind the potential consequences), obviously it is possible to be free AND dissatisfied.
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Veritas
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Re: Freedom [Re: Lion]
#9109432 - 10/21/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lion said:
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The Cypher said: If something's too expensive, I'm perfectly free to steal it.
I try not to tie myself into a belief system.
Can you steal a personal jet, a vacation at an all expenses paid resort, a date with a supermodel?
Apparently stealing 6 million dollars can get you all of these things: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25347905/
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Federal prosecutors said they have "overwhelming" evidence that he improperly spent up to $6 million from investors, much of it on a lavish lifestyle, including privately chartered jet travel with his girlfriend and others, expensive meals and clothing and a posh Manhattan apartment.
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deCypher
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Re: Freedom [Re: Lion]
#9109467 - 10/21/08 12:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lion said:
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The Cypher said: If something's too expensive, I'm perfectly free to steal it.
I try not to tie myself into a belief system.
Can you steal a personal jet, a vacation at an all expenses paid resort, a date with a supermodel?
I imagine it as a sort of boot-strapping process. If you can't steal the personal jet, then you can steal the money necessary to buy the jet. If you can't steal the millions of dollars required for the jet, you can steal enough money to afford a torch cutter and tools to break into a bank to steal the millions of dollars. If you can't steal ten thousand dollars to afford burglary tools, you can steal enough car stereos until you can.
Sort of like the guy who eventually was able to trade a paperclip for a house.
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bugsonwheels2
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Re: Freedom [Re: Lion]
#13775249 - 01/12/11 03:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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America is supposed to be A land of the free, where everyone can practive their religiou s sanctions without state demise. let us take what belongs to us. I don't need some one to measure my head on behalf of mine or anyones body
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bugsonwheels2
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america is full of ultra compassionate masturbation addicts that funnel t love through featuring explicit ways of chemsizing (sp) drugs,
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