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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Icelander]
    #7472229 - 09/30/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

but icelander, the grass is always greener on the other side.

Or, Tomorrow never comes so stop leaning on a better tomorrow


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For water benefits all things
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It provides for all people
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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7472244 - 09/30/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

The grass is sticky in my joint... ahh freedom  :stoner:


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All this time I've missed you
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Re: I want freedom. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7472301 - 09/30/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

haha, and some weigh freedom by the degree of stickiness in their grass


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The best way to live
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For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
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a man is loath to go
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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7472413 - 09/30/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Clean]
    #7472525 - 09/30/07 11:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Clean said:

Instead it's "Ok little cog, let's grease you up with some freedom so you can run along and be a good little cog in the machine."  And it feels Oh So Good to be slathered with that luscious, lubricious Freedom!  With no worries about tyrants taking away your Freedom!  ...  Well there's those brown skinned extremists... but somehow Big Daddy will take care of them. The Sword of Freedom is mighty!





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Re: I want freedom. [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7473108 - 10/01/07 08:19 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I like your post.

As far as the quote goes. I think this author is referring to the "illusion" of freedom as in running from what you don't like toward the illusion of safety. It's the infantile wish that we could still be safely encased in the womb and not have to make decisions when there is no clarity as to outcome. I do agree with this quote as far as it goes and believe the only freedom we really have is the freedom to surrender to the chaotic flow of life.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Clean]
    #7473117 - 10/01/07 08:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome post. :thumbup: The idea of freedom for most humans is tied up with their fear of death rather than the experience of being fully alive.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Icelander]
    #7475708 - 10/01/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
The idea of freedom for most humans is tied up with their fear of death rather than the experience of being fully alive.




:thumbup:
I am amazed by the way we narrow our awareness through fear.

NiamhNyx:  I appreciate your distinctions of the meaning of the word. great post.

Marc Stevens of the No State Project defines freedom (in a physical, societal sense) as :

100% control over your life and property 100% of the time, and zero control over somebody else's.
From this perspective government is anti-freedom, period.
He adds that freedom does not come in increments.  You're either free or you're not.

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Re: I want freedom. [Re: Icelander]
    #7475822 - 10/01/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

The sense of freedom is an illusion created by our conscious minds.

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Re: I want freedom. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7475839 - 10/01/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Illusion created by our conscious minds? :eek:
It sounds like a contradiction to me since illusion is the opposite of being aware.
Can you maybe explain your point of view?


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
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Re: I want freedom. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7476973 - 10/02/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MushmanTheManic said:
The sense of freedom is an illusion created by our conscious minds.




The only freedom we could ever have is to fully surrender to experience without judgment or attachment. I don't even know if you could call that freedom.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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