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Do you feel "going to school" is empty and pointless?
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I feel that going to school, in order to "make it" feels so empty.

What I yearn to do is to travel around the world to exotic places and do exotic things.

I don't want to make it so that I'm trapped in some life where I'm working 9-5 doing the most meaningless things.

I do enjoy the subjects that I'm learning. However I think school is a rigid set of standards for conforming.

I learn just as well on my own.

Learning should not be about doing tests and tests.

It should be an exploratory process.

I'm really ready to graduate. I should just take a minor and run with my other major and get out of school.

School is destroying my mental health.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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For some people it works, for others it doesn't. I'm like you....I'm a ramblin' man. :laugh:

If school's not working, then drop it and follow your heart, follow your dreams; this your life brother, do what fits you best.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Dark_Star]
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I'm glad I finished high school. That shit was HARD and I'm proud of myself for writing those 10 page papers.

College is option IMO. I have some and I'm starting to regret it. I taught myself all about computers and I'll continue to do so at my own discretion. No need to pay up some big institute.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Dark_Star]
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the way i see it now that im graduated high school -

either way, if you living on your own, your most likely going to have to be working a 9-5 to support yourself and possibly your family.  that is, if you don't have another source of income.

so if im gonna be working a 9-5 either way, i might as well take up a trade.  fuck university :smile:


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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I think school is better than the altnernative, but like was said, it's not for everyone.

I think getting a degree is important for your future pursuits - you know that one's that involve money?

It's a dirty game, but the only one in town. Good luck with your endeavors.

:heartpump:

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AroundtheSon]
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I fond collage to be unnecessary.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: theuser]
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theuser said:
I fond collage to be unnecessary.


At first I thought this was serious.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: theuser]
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Ha, you made a funny. :Splinter Voice:

:smile:

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AroundtheSon]
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The new splinter or the turtles 1 splinter?  I mean there's a HUUUGE difference :lol:

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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I felt the same way, then I dropped out. Now I work a 9-5. School isn't as bad as you think. I'll be back there someday. For now, it's debt debt debt.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: lukeboots]
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i'm attending university so i can make bank when i get out.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: lukeboots]
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I left school when I was 16.

Test and exams don't mean shit as far as showing a persons intellegence goes..it's more an indication that a person has good memory.

I fucking hated school and I was totally not a popular person..
I got bullied and got in fights too often.

I think that primary school (like when your 5-12 years old) is important to teach a kid how to read and write and count, but high school has alot of unnecessary shit in it..

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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Memory is an indication of intelligence. If you can't retain knowledge, you're gonna be fairly stupid.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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stickyicky13 said:
I left school when I was 16.

Test and exams don't mean shit as far as showing a persons intellegence goes..it's more an indication that a person has good memory.

I fucking hated school and I was totally not a popular person..
I got bullied and got in fights too often.

I think that primary school (like when your 5-12 years old) is important to teach a kid how to read and write and count, but high school has alot of unnecessary shit in it..


How old are you now? What is your living condition? How are you feeling about your life and future? Sorry for the questions, just a curious man wanting some answers.


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Edited by DarkMoon21 (04/10/07 05:17 PM)

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: DarkMoon21]
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DarkMoon21 said:
stickyicky13 said:
I left school when I was 16.

Test and exams don't mean shit as far as showing a persons intellegence goes..it's more an indication that a person has good memory.

I fucking hated school and I was totally not a popular person..
I got bullied and got in fights too often.

I think that primary school (like when your 5-12 years old) is important to teach a kid how to read and write and count, but high school has alot of unnecessary shit in it..


How old are you now? What is your living condition? How are you feeling about your life and future? Sorry for the questions, just a curious man wanting some answers.



I'm 22 now...

I'm unemployed at the moment and still live with my parents (i know i'm getting a bit old for that now)

I'm just waiting to start college later this year (not sure what course yet, media or sound technology or something)


I went to college a couple of year back and did "Higher English" which is a British thing.
I got a shitty grade for the final exam but I understood it all perfectly...that's why I say that exams are more about memory...there was just too much for me to remeber to write a fucking huge essay on book and other stuff like that.

I've had a few shitty littlew jobs that I have hated in the last few years and never did well in any of them...infact i've been sacked a few times..

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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PS... I feel depressed alot of the time and I have a pretty grim outlook on life.....no joke.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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In all honesty it sounds more that you're bitter in your inability to succeed than an actual gripe with tests.

I think tests are a fine gauge of knowledge. When you're placed into the situation in which you need to use said knowledge then it's exactly like a test, if not harder, because you usually aren't expecting it.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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One of the major skills that school will teach you is persistence, and putting up with things you don't want to do. It's a life skill, and it may seem useless at first.. but it sounds like that might be what you're lacking.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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Well, thank's for being honest about it, especially with a complete stranger, trust is an all too rare quality in people these days. Would you say you regret your decision to drop out or are you glad you did? How are you going to college without a high school diploma, or did you go back and finish it? Again, any answers your willing to give are appreciated.

Edited by DarkMoon21 (04/10/07 05:32 PM)

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: lukeboots]
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I am putting up with things I don't want to do.....otherwise I wouldn't be able to type this now.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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stickyicky13 said:
I am putting up with things I don't want to do.....otherwise I wouldn't be able to type this now.



sorry about that I got a bit of a dark mood there..

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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stickyicky13 said:
I am putting up with things I don't want to do.....otherwise I wouldn't be able to type this now.



sorry about that I got a bit of a dark mood there thinking of suicide:tongue:

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: stickyicky13]
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Oh, everyone puts up with things they dislike. I just mean in the school/work world, persistence in the face of suckiness is absolutely necessary.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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The thing about schools and jobs, or really any kind of commitment where you're giving up some of your mobility and independence; you have to believe in what you're doing to enjoy it. That doesn't mean you have to deeply believe in the importance of doing tech support or being a carpenter or whatever, but it has to engage you in some way. Whether it sparks an interest or simply gives you some sense of accomplishment or satisfaction.

For school in particular if you're not going to school for something, then you're just paying to do work towards a goal you're only luke warm about at best. Figure out what you want to do with your life, find your passion, your interest, your purpose and then match your strengths to that. When you know the answer to that big puzzler, if schooling is part of the path then it will no longer seem empty or pointless.

Hope that helps.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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school DOES work otherwise the system wouldnt be in place. Sure, it has problems, lots of them, but you dont have to respect the system to attend.
I treat school as just a stepping stone. If you put it on a pedestal of expectations and actualy believe that grades indicate intelligence or that every class you take will DIRECTLY benefit your life, you will be let down or worse. School is just a phase. Learning is life long. You know this.
Dont let laziness to do the busiwork designed for the masses knock you off your path. besides, you cant travel the world without disposable income, and living paycheck to paycheck is a harsh way to spend your time on Earth.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Colbadol]
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Education is a rather useful tool in ones quest for knowledge, wouldn't you agree?

Yeah, high school is lame, just finish it you'll thank yourself later.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: lukeboots]
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jonnywax said:
One of the major skills that school will teach you is persistence, and putting up with things you don't want to do. It's a life skill, and it may seem useless at first.. but it sounds like that might be what you're lacking.



Put up with things you dont want to?!?!?!?!?! See even those in favour of schooling admit its the tool of the government to get us used to being treated like shit for the real world so that we dont get all pissed off and riot... or hell even protest or try to change personally but i digress.

I dropped out of school about a month after I turned 16. Didnt get a job, I tried but not too hard. It was a great life with days spent skating wandering aimlessly around playing guitar.. it was great. ive returned to different high schools uhm something like 3 or 4 of them but could never really put up with it for more then a month.
One experiences a much broader range of experience when not in school.

when its a little warmer out im planning of setting off with my pack to wherever. not sure how it'll go and that excites me so much, some fear the unknown but i wish to know it.

school... never going back, way too fucken uptight about everything
from now on im working to stay unemployed


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: rubixcubies]
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The bottom line (with some exceptions);

If you don't want to be broke, stuck working a shitty job the rest of your life, school is the best thing you can possibly do for yourself.

Of course, there are people who go to school who still end up in shitty jobs/ broke, and there are people without an education who end up rich as fuck... but the general trend doesn't favor you.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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I go to school mostly for the great potential financial stability so I actually CAN travel

I don't have enough patience to go bohemian

I've never seen "pointless school" argument that's been adequately justified


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
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Thanks for the encouragement guys. I was a bit depressed earlier, but I'm feeling great now. I agree with most of things said in favor of schooling.

I shouldn't even be stressed because I know I've passed the test. I made a few mistakes that I should not have made, I was really pissed off about it.

Thanks.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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i graduated highschool 6 months late because i took off with a backpack. you spend a lot more time walking than anything else

now im starting community college and in two years, il be worth something on the job market. the thing is, mexicans are taking all the jobs you dont need college for. plus i like to learn and and read and studdy. i always was a nerd.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: rubixcubies]
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rubixcubies said:
jonnywax said:
One of the major skills that school will teach you is persistence, and putting up with things you don't want to do. It's a life skill, and it may seem useless at first.. but it sounds like that might be what you're lacking.

 

Put up with things you dont want to?!?!?!?!?!  See even those in favour of schooling admit its the tool of the government to get us used to being treated like shit for the real world so that we dont get all pissed off and riot... or hell even protest or try to change personally but i digress.

I dropped out of school about a month after I turned 16. Didnt get a job, I tried but not too hard. It was a great life with days spent skating wandering aimlessly around playing guitar.. it was great. ive returned to different high schools uhm something like 3 or 4 of them but could never really put up with it for more then a month.
One experiences a much broader range of experience when not in school.

when its a little warmer out im planning of setting off with my pack to wherever. not sure how it'll go and that excites me so much, some fear the unknown but i wish to know it.

school... never going back, way too fucken uptight about everything
from now on im working to stay unemployed


:tinfoil:

In all seriousness, that's subjective. For example, during HS while school was in session I am exposed to many more options to do various things than during the summer break. I just sit around and waste away during the summer (which I'm far more than happy with.)


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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School has opened up many opportunities for me. I can honestly say that I enjoy learning new things and consistently challenging myself. This has extended to the job I do now. At the end of my workday I always feel content knowing I was productive and working towards my potential.

Then I collect my paycheck and do the other things the OP said, I enjoy my free time, travel and the other fruits of my labor.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: rubixcubies]
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rubixcubies said:
jonnywax said:
One of the major skills that school will teach you is persistence, and putting up with things you don't want to do. It's a life skill, and it may seem useless at first.. but it sounds like that might be what you're lacking.



Put up with things you dont want to?!?!?!?!?! See even those in favour of schooling admit its the tool of the government to get us used to being treated like shit for the real world so that we dont get all pissed off and riot... or hell even protest or try to change personally but i digress.



Oh give it a rest. Having a job is not the end of the world, I wish you hippies would realize this. I actually feel good about myself when I'm employed, not like I'm wasting my time. In every day and every age, people have had to put up with things they don't want to. We live in a time where people have, on average, more free time than they've ever had before. I said it's a "life skill", meaning it will help you in most elements of your existence. I can't imagine a sane, comprehensive argument to be "against schooling" as a whole. I'm gonna quote a library poster: knowledge is power.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: lukeboots]
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You feel good because the government drugs your air ventilation systems with endorphin releasing drugs.
:tinfoil:


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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Personally, I've lost faith in the school system. I've seen people do 98% on a geography test, but were amazed to find out that there were cars in Europe. In my english class, the teacher asked if anyone knew who Edgar Allen Poe was; only me and another guy raised our hand out of 30 people. I mean, Edgar Allen Poe for christ sakes!

School is not a gauge of intelligence. The way I look at it, from kindergarten to 8th grade you'll actually learn stuff like basic maths and comprehension skills. When you get to high school, it will be to mold you into something society can use.

I went to a french school, and I'd be held after class almost every day for speaking english to my friends. School is good. High school is the biggest plop of shit that I've ever seen.

However, I do agree that it's good to complete. Because it will just make your life so much easier in the long run. Not because it's useful, but it's made that you need it.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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I've also seen someone fail to point out the United States on a world map.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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there is so much bs in school that just doesn't need to be there. if they take out the bs, school could be shorter, which would probably motivate more students to actually finish their homework and study.

i also think it depends on the teachers. some teachers just have that monotone voice and attitude that just puts you to sleep, others get your mind going.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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Who's to say knowing who Poe is means you're intelligent. Being able to think well and critically is about the only way to judge intelligence fairly. There is always knowledge people aren't going to know, and yes, school teaches that. But school also is the best way I've ever come across to figure out how to think critically and analytically.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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I should have 60 hours under my belt in May, but I feel I am wasting my time now.

College is a place to go to learn how to make money and network with people, that's it. It only perpetuates where we currently stand.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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i feel exactly the same way you do. except i'm a freshman.
but i'm on financial aid. so i don't even know how that is going to be payed off, unless i die or become completely disabled.

i just want to get out of here, and be travelling to new places constantly. meeting new people. learning new cultures.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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Well, I mean come one. POE! I know you're not supposed to know everything, but wow. Also, my point is that they don't think analytically, they just memorize the answers or formulas and pass the tests. It molds you into a worker, it doesn't make you intelligent.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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That's the person's fault, not the education systems. Like I said, school is the best thing I've come across to think critically. Apparently you've come across a better one for you, I'm curious what it is. Seriously.

And shit, knowing Poe doesn't really do me any good. Sure, I can act cultured, but in the end it really gives me no advantage beyond any social situation.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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Video fames and the internet. For real. I slept through most of high school, I did maybe 2 or 3 pieces of homework after grade seven or so and I skipped over a month's worth of school and I still managed to have good grades. I would constantly lose points in math because I didn't do it how I was told to do it, regardless of if I had the right answer.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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Eh, once we got into higher math we would get credit as long as we showed some sort of work to prove we weren't cheating. I didn't do much homework, and skipped a lot. But I did learn methods and things that I never would have learned if I dropped out. It also helps you learn a lot about how society works. And as much as I hate college, there's no way I'm dropping out... hopefully I'll get some post-grad done too, but right now my grades ain't gonna let that happen.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: demiu5]
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After 2 years at a prestigious Canadian university, I realized something, and dropped out. I quickly got the feeling of, "been here done this". I don't feel like perpetuating the system anymore. Underlying it all is $$$. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. Tuition, housing, books, your prof's paycheck...

I don't think having a degree guarantees future success. Job security does not exist. That said, a university degree is only as good as what you do with it. What are your goals and motivations?

I'm back living at my mom's house. I'm 19 now. In a few years my girlfriend and I will be moving into a house together. I plan to get rich in real-estate, and start a few of my own businesses. I want to PRODUCE quality products for people, instead of CONSUMING products manufactured by others.

Right now, I am getting a job at a local technical support center to start accumulating capital until the time is right to make my next move. I would recommend going to the library and picking out any book by Robert Kiyosaki (the Richdad series). He really opened my eyes to the capitalisitc world we live in.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: cavemate_A]
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No matter how many items you produce, you're still going to have to consume.

I enjoy learning, absolutely. While school for me was boring early on to go through, it picked up towards the end. And despite the snooze factor, changes could be seen. Positive changes. And they could be traced back to school with a little effort.

While I learned a TON outside of school, I also learned a TON inside of school. Both types of learning have their places. But once you get through school, you have all the time in the world to learn outside of it. But how much of your time are you going to dedicate to math? How much of your time are you going to dedicate to those topics you disliked in school? The reality is, not much.

And someone said it only perpetuates where we are currently... bullshit. The aim is to boost you foreward. Catch you up to speed with the current knowledge base, and then with any luck, you will create your own ideas. It is much more difficult to just create an idea out of the blue, than to take something previous and improve on it. Not saying it isn't possible, but to say school is just trying to keep everyone in a rut is bullshit.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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All I'm going to say, is what I've said before:

College worked out well for me and chances are that I'll be making 6 figures within 5 years out of undergrad.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Mezcal]
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Doing what?


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Mezcal]
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Quote:
I'll be making 6 figures within 5 years out of undergrad.


Actually all the very many ignorant college sophmores who walk around saying things like this is really what is empty and hopeless


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Mezcal]
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snyder said:
College worked out well for me and chances are that I'll be making 6 figures within 5 years out of undergrad.


Amen. I love school and it has given me the opportunity to study what I enjoy and has given me a path to the profession (law) which I want to end up in.

On top of that, once I'm graduated from last school I'll be making $100,000 plus and during the summer breaks I'll be making $25+ an hour.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Redstorm]
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I love the shit out of college. LOVE IT.
It's a thousand times more mind expanding than any psychedelic I've ever consumed. Just learning about all the amazing stuff that happens trillions of times every day without fail just blows my mind... I don't think enough people appreciate how much shit has to go absolutely right for them to even exist.

And what about foreign language? it's fascinating to consider that people in different parts of the globe independently developed speech, but with totally different words. On top of that, learning a new language is one of the most useful tools you can possibly acquire... it's just memorizing a second word for everything, on top of how many words you know now... it's really not that hard. :lol:

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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Life is about learning and growing. Take from school what you will. It's not like school will make the man. It's what man makes from the school that counts. I never went to College, well I did for a semester. But since then i have taken classes and learned a great deal through my own study. You can learn what ever you want to,.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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Hey how do you change the title of the post? It's whack.

My English really sucks.



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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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Corporal Kielbasa said:
You can learn what ever you want to,.


:thumbup:


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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I couldn't have said it better myself. I feel you on so many levels on the whole school system.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Colbadol]
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ApJunkie said:
The bottom line (with some exceptions);

If you don't want to be broke, stuck working a shitty job the rest of your life, school is the best thing you can possibly do for yourself.

Of course, there are people who go to school who still end up in shitty jobs/ broke, and there are people without an education who end up rich as fuck... but the general trend doesn't favor you.


this is gold.

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it comes down to reducing your standard deviation of financial stability. if you can do college and get a degree, you have a much higher chance of keeping your head above the red line. if you don't go to college you're going to have to work harder to stay above. college is an investment that pays off, although that doesn't mean you're going to be rich. people with college educations earn a higher, more sustainable wage that grows faster as they age.

i would be interested in comparing the opinions in this thread to the age and income of their owners. i think it is very funny (because i used to be that way) that all you wide-eyed kiddos think that college is a waste of time and that "finding yourself" is the way to go because, i hate to break it to you, you can't eat dreams.

in economic terms, life is a battle between work and leisure. you move along the indifference curve of utility between the two and the higher income you have, the further away from "hell" you get because you can work less and earn as much as joe the mechanic and bob the dreamer does while they put away 10 hour work days. you get weekends. "free time" costs however much you lose in wages and you can afford to buy free time to travel since you earn more. quite simple really.

that aside, some people simply aren't smart or driven enough for an education. they shouldn't waste their time/money on college because, well, they won't finish and are better off working straight out of high school.


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Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.

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Retirement planning [Re: CantiSama]
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CantiSama said:
in economic terms, life is a battle between work and leisure. you move along the indifference curve of utility between the two and the higher income you have, the further away from "hell" you get because you can work less and earn as much as joe the mechanic and bob the dreamer does while they put away 10 hour work days. you get weekends. "free time" costs however much you lose in wages and you can afford to buy free time to travel since you earn more. quite simple really.


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Many of the people around me (19 year olds) spend their entire paychecks on leisure activies, something I don't understand. They will always be working if they spend what they earn.

What do you think of passive income and portfolio income? "It's not what you do for the money, it's what the money does for you". There are rewards in store for those who are financially literate. One of the major differences between the rich and poor is that rich people know their way around tax laws, they know how to read a prospectus, how to evaluate an investment property, etc.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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AlCapwn said:
I went to a french school, and I'd be held after class almost every day for speaking english to my friends. School is good. High school is the biggest plop of shit that I've ever seen.

However, I do agree that it's good to complete. Because it will just make your life so much easier in the long run. Not because it's useful, but it's made that you need it.


I dont understand this attitude. How could you, in your day-to-day life, NOT have to use things you learned in High School? You dont ever have to do algebra? Or geometry?

You dont ever have to write anything? Or express yourself to someone?

You dont ever seriously read? Like, not for fun, but for deep understanding of something?

You dont do any of this stuff?

I use high school skills every single day, and I think most other people do...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Dude
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:mushroom2:    I am going through the same shit as you. I've got these hard ass parents who think only of status. And I must follow what they expect in order to make them feel happy. I was forced to go to my mom's community college where she teaches, just because of cheaper tuition and blahdy blah blah  and I'm almost about to finish. Even though its a 2 year, i've been there for 3. I'm trying to get out of this massachusettes hole for it is highly expensive to live out here on my own. But the best thing for you to do is not worry about how other's have to push you in order to live it under their standards. We're free birds. Free thinkers, and if we fall under this trap where people slave, go to bars, and clubbing, buy a huge house- pop several kids, rely on your partner for financial issues...how are we going to explore the world the easiest way? Do what you love as much as possible.

GO BACKPACKING-  it's the best way to learn and respect other cultures and form it into your own.The best way to make friends is to go from country to country. 

Well hey, just a couple suggestions... The main thing is just focus on yourself- and leave the old shit behind :smile:
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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Iron_Hymen]
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That's not too hard to read.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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haha sorry about that , chose brown by accident.:mushroom2:


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#1 reason organized religion should be done away with. It's a message, and one that is open to speculation.
"Pray your own prayers and talk to God on your own.He doesn't want a fucking parrot, and he doesn't want a sheep"

GnuBobo:Iron. Hymen. Vitamin.
Be Iron, like Hymen, in Vitamin.
Iron. Hymen. Vitamin.

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