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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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i feel exactly the same way you do. except i'm a freshman.
but i'm on financial aid. so i don't even know how that is going to be payed off, unless i die or become completely disabled.

i just want to get out of here, and be travelling to new places constantly. meeting new people. learning new cultures.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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Well, I mean come one. POE! I know you're not supposed to know everything, but wow. Also, my point is that they don't think analytically, they just memorize the answers or formulas and pass the tests. It molds you into a worker, it doesn't make you intelligent.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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That's the person's fault, not the education systems. Like I said, school is the best thing I've come across to think critically. Apparently you've come across a better one for you, I'm curious what it is. Seriously.

And shit, knowing Poe doesn't really do me any good. Sure, I can act cultured, but in the end it really gives me no advantage beyond any social situation.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: jewunit]
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Video fames and the internet. For real. I slept through most of high school, I did maybe 2 or 3 pieces of homework after grade seven or so and I skipped over a month's worth of school and I still managed to have good grades. I would constantly lose points in math because I didn't do it how I was told to do it, regardless of if I had the right answer.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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Eh, once we got into higher math we would get credit as long as we showed some sort of work to prove we weren't cheating. I didn't do much homework, and skipped a lot. But I did learn methods and things that I never would have learned if I dropped out. It also helps you learn a lot about how society works. And as much as I hate college, there's no way I'm dropping out... hopefully I'll get some post-grad done too, but right now my grades ain't gonna let that happen.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: demiu5]
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After 2 years at a prestigious Canadian university, I realized something, and dropped out. I quickly got the feeling of, "been here done this". I don't feel like perpetuating the system anymore. Underlying it all is $$$. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. Tuition, housing, books, your prof's paycheck...

I don't think having a degree guarantees future success. Job security does not exist. That said, a university degree is only as good as what you do with it. What are your goals and motivations?

I'm back living at my mom's house. I'm 19 now. In a few years my girlfriend and I will be moving into a house together. I plan to get rich in real-estate, and start a few of my own businesses. I want to PRODUCE quality products for people, instead of CONSUMING products manufactured by others.

Right now, I am getting a job at a local technical support center to start accumulating capital until the time is right to make my next move. I would recommend going to the library and picking out any book by Robert Kiyosaki (the Richdad series). He really opened my eyes to the capitalisitc world we live in.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: cavemate_A]
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No matter how many items you produce, you're still going to have to consume.

I enjoy learning, absolutely. While school for me was boring early on to go through, it picked up towards the end. And despite the snooze factor, changes could be seen. Positive changes. And they could be traced back to school with a little effort.

While I learned a TON outside of school, I also learned a TON inside of school. Both types of learning have their places. But once you get through school, you have all the time in the world to learn outside of it. But how much of your time are you going to dedicate to math? How much of your time are you going to dedicate to those topics you disliked in school? The reality is, not much.

And someone said it only perpetuates where we are currently... bullshit. The aim is to boost you foreward. Catch you up to speed with the current knowledge base, and then with any luck, you will create your own ideas. It is much more difficult to just create an idea out of the blue, than to take something previous and improve on it. Not saying it isn't possible, but to say school is just trying to keep everyone in a rut is bullshit.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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All I'm going to say, is what I've said before:

College worked out well for me and chances are that I'll be making 6 figures within 5 years out of undergrad.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Mezcal]
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Doing what?


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Mezcal]
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Quote:
I'll be making 6 figures within 5 years out of undergrad.


Actually all the very many ignorant college sophmores who walk around saying things like this is really what is empty and hopeless


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Mezcal]
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snyder said:
College worked out well for me and chances are that I'll be making 6 figures within 5 years out of undergrad.


Amen. I love school and it has given me the opportunity to study what I enjoy and has given me a path to the profession (law) which I want to end up in.

On top of that, once I'm graduated from last school I'll be making $100,000 plus and during the summer breaks I'll be making $25+ an hour.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Redstorm]
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I love the shit out of college. LOVE IT.
It's a thousand times more mind expanding than any psychedelic I've ever consumed. Just learning about all the amazing stuff that happens trillions of times every day without fail just blows my mind... I don't think enough people appreciate how much shit has to go absolutely right for them to even exist.

And what about foreign language? it's fascinating to consider that people in different parts of the globe independently developed speech, but with totally different words. On top of that, learning a new language is one of the most useful tools you can possibly acquire... it's just memorizing a second word for everything, on top of how many words you know now... it's really not that hard. :lol:

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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Life is about learning and growing. Take from school what you will. It's not like school will make the man. It's what man makes from the school that counts. I never went to College, well I did for a semester. But since then i have taken classes and learned a great deal through my own study. You can learn what ever you want to,.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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Hey how do you change the title of the post? It's whack.

My English really sucks.



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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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Corporal Kielbasa said:
You can learn what ever you want to,.


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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
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I couldn't have said it better myself. I feel you on so many levels on the whole school system.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Colbadol]
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ApJunkie said:
The bottom line (with some exceptions);

If you don't want to be broke, stuck working a shitty job the rest of your life, school is the best thing you can possibly do for yourself.

Of course, there are people who go to school who still end up in shitty jobs/ broke, and there are people without an education who end up rich as fuck... but the general trend doesn't favor you.


this is gold.

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it comes down to reducing your standard deviation of financial stability. if you can do college and get a degree, you have a much higher chance of keeping your head above the red line. if you don't go to college you're going to have to work harder to stay above. college is an investment that pays off, although that doesn't mean you're going to be rich. people with college educations earn a higher, more sustainable wage that grows faster as they age.

i would be interested in comparing the opinions in this thread to the age and income of their owners. i think it is very funny (because i used to be that way) that all you wide-eyed kiddos think that college is a waste of time and that "finding yourself" is the way to go because, i hate to break it to you, you can't eat dreams.

in economic terms, life is a battle between work and leisure. you move along the indifference curve of utility between the two and the higher income you have, the further away from "hell" you get because you can work less and earn as much as joe the mechanic and bob the dreamer does while they put away 10 hour work days. you get weekends. "free time" costs however much you lose in wages and you can afford to buy free time to travel since you earn more. quite simple really.

that aside, some people simply aren't smart or driven enough for an education. they shouldn't waste their time/money on college because, well, they won't finish and are better off working straight out of high school.


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Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.

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Retirement planning [Re: CantiSama]
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CantiSama said:
in economic terms, life is a battle between work and leisure. you move along the indifference curve of utility between the two and the higher income you have, the further away from "hell" you get because you can work less and earn as much as joe the mechanic and bob the dreamer does while they put away 10 hour work days. you get weekends. "free time" costs however much you lose in wages and you can afford to buy free time to travel since you earn more. quite simple really.


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Many of the people around me (19 year olds) spend their entire paychecks on leisure activies, something I don't understand. They will always be working if they spend what they earn.

What do you think of passive income and portfolio income? "It's not what you do for the money, it's what the money does for you". There are rewards in store for those who are financially literate. One of the major differences between the rich and poor is that rich people know their way around tax laws, they know how to read a prospectus, how to evaluate an investment property, etc.

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: AlCapwn]
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AlCapwn said:
I went to a french school, and I'd be held after class almost every day for speaking english to my friends. School is good. High school is the biggest plop of shit that I've ever seen.

However, I do agree that it's good to complete. Because it will just make your life so much easier in the long run. Not because it's useful, but it's made that you need it.


I dont understand this attitude. How could you, in your day-to-day life, NOT have to use things you learned in High School? You dont ever have to do algebra? Or geometry?

You dont ever have to write anything? Or express yourself to someone?

You dont ever seriously read? Like, not for fun, but for deep understanding of something?

You dont do any of this stuff?

I use high school skills every single day, and I think most other people do...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Do you feel like that "going to school" and all this is empty and pointless? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Dude
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:mushroom2:    I am going through the same shit as you. I've got these hard ass parents who think only of status. And I must follow what they expect in order to make them feel happy. I was forced to go to my mom's community college where she teaches, just because of cheaper tuition and blahdy blah blah  and I'm almost about to finish. Even though its a 2 year, i've been there for 3. I'm trying to get out of this massachusettes hole for it is highly expensive to live out here on my own. But the best thing for you to do is not worry about how other's have to push you in order to live it under their standards. We're free birds. Free thinkers, and if we fall under this trap where people slave, go to bars, and clubbing, buy a huge house- pop several kids, rely on your partner for financial issues...how are we going to explore the world the easiest way? Do what you love as much as possible.

GO BACKPACKING-  it's the best way to learn and respect other cultures and form it into your own.The best way to make friends is to go from country to country. 

Well hey, just a couple suggestions... The main thing is just focus on yourself- and leave the old shit behind :smile:
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