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MXNR
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TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga!
#5898058 - 07/25/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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First off, to anyone who is/was a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle fan, I recommend you watch this trailer ASAP!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/teenagemutantninjaturtles/
Secondly, I've been having an argument about Splinter's origin with a friend. OK, here is what I think happened: Splinter started off as a man. He was a skilled martial artist and on his way to become head of some academy. Shredder was also a leading student at this school. Shredder got jealous and attacked Splinter. In the ensuing battle, shredder had his face scarred, but splinter ended up being beaten and thrown into a sewer. In the sewer, Splinter came into contact with mutagen and a rat. And of course the turtles were just some kid's pets that were thrown down into the sewer and became intelligent after contacting the mutagen. Splinter raised these guys up and taught them martial arts.
OK, now my friend thinks that Splinter started out as a rat, the pet rat of a human ninja master. This normal rat supposedly began to train itself and mimic the master who he watched train all day? WTF? After many years of doing this, the rat became quite good. Anyway, one day a rival came by the dojo and killed splinter's human master (this was shredder). The rat became enraged and lept out of the cage to badly scar shredder's face. Shredder kicked the rat down a sewer, where it contacted mutagen and gained (more?) intelligence in addition to a more humanoid form.
So, does anyone out there in shroomy land know the official mythology? I'm pretty sure that he got his story from the movies, whereas I was a hardcore TV show fan. I just always assume that the movies get it wrong when it comes to cartoon adaptations.
Thankies in advance
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898084 - 07/25/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Holy shit...I loved that show. I don't exactly know the truth behind Splinters origin...but if I remember correctly...he was a rat to begin with? Then again, I am gettong old. I still love that show.
Now time to watch that clip.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898086 - 07/25/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, can't call myself a hardcore fan, but... I think the first explanation came from the TV show, and the second came from the comic I seem to remember a panel or three of the little rat doing wave punches and front kicks In its cage But Anywho, I remember it that way
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898099 - 07/25/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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he started out as a rat, then got oozed
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MXNR
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: HarvestTheBrain]
#5898104 - 07/25/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude? Really? So just a normal rat trained itself in martial arts?
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898111 - 07/25/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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MXNR said: First off, to anyone who is/was a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle fan, I recommend you watch this trailer ASAP!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/teenagemutantninjaturtles/
Secondly, I've been having an argument about Splinter's origin with a friend. OK, here is what I think happened: Splinter started off as a man. He was a skilled martial artist and on his way to become head of some academy. Shredder was also a leading student at this school. Shredder got jealous and attacked Splinter. In the ensuing battle, shredder had his face scarred, but splinter ended up being beaten and thrown into a sewer. In the sewer, Splinter came into contact with mutagen and a rat. And of course the turtles were just some kid's pets that were thrown down into the sewer and became intelligent after contacting the mutagen. Splinter raised these guys up and taught them martial arts.
OK, now my friend thinks that Splinter started out as a rat, the pet rat of a human ninja master. This normal rat supposedly began to train itself and mimic the master who he watched train all day? WTF? After many years of doing this, the rat became quite good. Anyway, one day a rival came by the dojo and killed splinter's human master (this was shredder). The rat became enraged and lept out of the cage to badly scar shredder's face. Shredder kicked the rat down a sewer, where it contacted mutagen and gained (more?) intelligence in addition to a more humanoid form.
So, does anyone out there in shroomy land know the official mythology? I'm pretty sure that he got his story from the movies, whereas I was a hardcore TV show fan. I just always assume that the movies get it wrong when it comes to cartoon adaptations.
Thankies in advance

This is a good debate.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898142 - 07/25/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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According to the movie, your friend is right. According to the cartoon (I'm pretty sure) you're right
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898146 - 07/25/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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smart rat mimicked his masters moves in a cage rats master in a fight with someone for a woman somewhere along the way master gets killed rat gets covered with ooze, mutates turtles mutate as well rat teaches turtles to fight to avenge death of his master boom
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898149 - 07/25/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think it's a combination of both actually.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898172 - 07/25/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm so going to watch that.
I'm a fan.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: MXNR]
#5898224 - 07/25/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It depends on which story you go by. You are both technically right. Remember there have been lots of TMNT story lines: comic, cartoon, movie, books, new cartoon and each tell a slightly different story.
I prefer the original cartoon were Yoshi(splinter) and Saki(shredder) were rivals in the same dojo till shredder tricked splinter and got him kicked out. After that splinter left for USA and lived in the sewer with the rats.And the only reason I'm so up to date w/ the story is because I just bought the first 4 seasons on DVD.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: CosmicFool]
#5898243 - 07/25/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I used to get 5 bucks in quarters with my friends and play that 4-player arcade game. It was awesome.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: GnuBobo]
#5898293 - 07/25/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you talking about the first arcade game cause I loved that one... it's a shame to see the new ninja turtles. I like a few things about it but over all I don't like it much.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: CosmicFool]
#5898319 - 07/25/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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CosmicFool said:
When I was like 14, I had a dream that I got shot to death by Rock Steady. It was one of my few experiences with "dying in a dream" so it stands out.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#5898347 - 07/25/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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JacquesCousteau said:
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CosmicFool said:
When I was like 14, I had a dream that I got shot to death by Rock Steady. It was one of my few experiences with "dying in a dream" so it stands out.

I'm sure that isn't funny, but it made me laugh.
Sorry.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: CosmicFool]
#5898378 - 07/25/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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CosmicFool said: Are you talking about the first arcade game cause I loved that one... it's a shame to see the new ninja turtles. I like a few things about it but over all I don't like it much.
I didn't know there was a new ninja turtles game. 
That four-player arcade game. I was usually Donatello. BECAUSE I RULED.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5898384 - 07/25/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Desiree said:
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JacquesCousteau said:
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CosmicFool said:
When I was like 14, I had a dream that I got shot to death by Rock Steady. It was one of my few experiences with "dying in a dream" so it stands out.

I'm sure that isn't funny, but it made me laugh.
Sorry.
Ah, sure it is. If you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? :P
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#5898499 - 07/25/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had a dream I was a ninja turtle unfortunately I was 20 at the time... but still it was one of the few dreams I knew I was dreaming in.
also Donatello was voiced by Corey Feldman in the movie Kevin Nash played Super Shredder and who can for get Vanilla Ice singing the Ninja Rap
...Oh and GnuBobo there are 3 new TMNT games... in the second one you can unlock the original game we all remember so fondly
T-U-R-T-L-E POWER!!!
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: CosmicFool]
#5898646 - 07/25/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, this video gives the best hint on Splinter's origins.
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Re: TMNT, Splinter's Origin Question Cowabunga! [Re: CosmicFool]
#5898774 - 07/25/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Since we're sharing TMNT stories...I used to think they were kinda cute. 
They were ninjas man.
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