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OfflineoDin
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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67441 - 12/03/99 12:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

When I first ran a cool mist I used tap(well) water. They quit puttin out humidity after about a week of constant use. I finally looked inside of the uptake tube on the cool mist and there was alot of buildup. I now use distilled or bottled drinking water and have good luck. I live in a very dry area esp now with winter settin in. I have one sterlite container with cool mist and perlite going. It is probably overkill but it seems to run right at 90% humidity even with a loose lid of plastic sheeting. Hope this helps.

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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67442 - 12/03/99 03:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

definately post some pics, man. I read that whole thing and followed it pretty well and I can't think of what could have gone wrong. I don't think that your terrariums are so airtight that pressure would blow out the motors, and if you are replacing water then it must have been running properly. Your output hoses weren't submerged under water, were they? That seems like too obvious of a blunder to me, but hey, you never know. Post some pics and I'll see if I can help. I have a humidifier set up, too.

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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67443 - 12/03/99 04:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm gonna go with the lack of vent holes, it seems like the only answer without actually examing the set-up.

Bummer, I hope the new motors work better for you.

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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67445 - 12/03/99 01:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Under no circumstances should the motor be burning out. This is an AC motor, and regardless of how restricted the output is, those just don't die easily. It should run for a decade or so.

My initial guess is that you are filling the chamber to beyond the full level. In the instructions it talks about filling to a specific level that is considerably below the disc or splash comb. If you put too much water in there, especially so that the disc or comb is touching the water, two things can happen:

1) It will won't put out nearly ANY humidity at all (maybe some dry air, maybe nothing).

2) Water will likely eventually splash up in to the AC motor coils and short them out. (You'll hear a popping sound)

But after reading your post more carefully, you explain that you are only filling the base with an inch an a half of water, so that couldn't be it.

My second guess is that you have attached the hoses from the base in a strange orientation. I couldn't gather from your messages how they actually were attached, so let me suggest some things here.

The hoses should connect to the top of the base of the humidifier such that they run directly upward first (like the original slot). The holes should NOT be out the side of the base nor should the holes be on the top close to the motor. If you make the hoses close to the motor, you'll disrupt the air flow pattern, potentially sending mist up in to the motor housing. Also, the hoses should just poke in to the base (like about 1/4" or so). If you have too much hose poking into the base, you'll disrupt the airflow. For a good set up example take a look at THIS.

Here's another thing: make sure that the humidifier is on a level and steady surface. Basically look for anything that could be causing that water to splash up on the AC motor coils.

Lastly, you mention excessive water in the couplings. I too used to have this before I was restricting the exhaust. As per my tek, it is best to keep the terrarium air tight and limit the exhaust. I use about 5 1/4" exhaust holes per input hose (but you could probably double or half that and be okay). This keeps a certain amount of back pressure (a good thing) and keep the hoses from running full blast and "gurgling" excessively due to water build up. Back pressure also keeps dry air from "falling" in to the terrarium.

ShroomGod

[This message has been edited by ShroomGod (edited December 03, 1999).]



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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67446 - 12/03/99 05:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

this may also be helpful....not sure.

http://www.shroomery.org/ubbnoncgi/Forum2/HTML/007687.html

Tor

PS- I've been spraying the sides of my aquarium daily even though the cool mist is running 24/7. The casings dry toooo much to support pinning.



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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67448 - 12/05/99 03:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, here's a picture of my humidifier. I originally had the couplings that connected the hoses to the base further away from the motor housing, on either side of the output slit, but then moved the hoses to where they are now, thinking that the new position would help increase the amount of humidity that would be put out. It seems, though, as ShroomGod said, that this is where I went wrong. Once I get the new motors, I'll move the hoses back and give it another shot.

Now, with that problem seemingly taken care of, can anyone offer any insight into why my humidity while running this thing is so low? I'm going to post a picture of my chambers to this thread, too...

Thanks ShroomGod for the tip, and to everyone else who has helped.




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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67449 - 12/05/99 06:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Congrats on clearing that up. If you find that the humidity still isn't up to par, try sealing the terrariums better. I have basically the same settup except my terrariums were not sealed. If you decide to do this just use some clear silicone and one of those cualking guns. Run a couple of fat beads around the inside rim of the lid. Cover the lip of the terrariums with Saran wrap and put the lid on. Squeeze the lid down to seal it up. I left mine outside to dry for a day or two. I then took off the lid to find that since it was air tight, the silicone didn't dry. So I then just took off the lid and let the lid dry outside for another day. The next day I took off the saran wrap slowly because the silicone still hadn't completely dried and I didn't want to disrupt the molded shape of the container. Another day and it was dry and seals almost perfectly.
Sounds like a lot of work but in my case it was necessary. You can probably find a similar/easier/shorter way of doing this. Whatever you do, DO NOT use gasket maker!...Huge mistake on my part. Nothing but mess. Hope it helps...


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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67450 - 12/07/99 10:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Gee Placebo, it might be an illusion or something but it looks like to me that the tub on the right literally has water beading on the sides! And you say your humidity is too low? Are you by chance heating the inside of the terrarium? If you are, stop it. It will drive down the relative humidity while causing, ironically, all kinds of condensation inside.

ShroomGod



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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67451 - 12/08/99 11:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, there is condensation on the insides of the chambers, but no thanks to the cool mist. My motor is still blown and the humidifier is not in service at the moment, so I've just been misting and fanning as usual. (The pictures were taken the same day I posted them). It's my spray bottle that's causing the condensation, and the chambers sure didn't look like that while I had the humidifier running.


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Re: Cool Mist Problems...
    #67452 - 12/10/99 07:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)


Placebo,,,if you have any access to 2nd hand or thrift stores you may as a buddy of mine did get 4 large cool mist units of various brands for the price of one new unit at the store.

My buddy likes the units that have a flapper built right in to adjust how much mist you want the unit to put out,,,I believe these are Hankscraft brand ,,,they are brown and hold like 2-1/2 gallons per filling.

Next to Wallmart thrift stores & garage sales and such are a very good resource for the would be experimentor. :-)

Per Hoyt



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