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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) * 5
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That is awesome, God. I'd try it if I didn't live where it never gets cold!

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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ShroomGod, this is an excellent idea. Most of the problems (as you may know) that deal with heating your cakes comes from the heat drying the cakes out (a little bit)

Using your enemy against itself is a great way to win a battle!

Heating water to defeat dehydration is a great idea. I've done this before with sitting the jars directly in the water, but this technique is MUCH better and safer. I have a tupperware container that is about 16" deep! Much deeper then the one you've described, but I filled it up with water about 3/4 of the way and within a few hours the lid is nice and warm!!! One difference is that my tupperware isn't insulated and yet I'm still getting the temperature that I need.

I am in a place where it does get cold and winters are bring about heating problems.

Excellent idea!!! Works great!



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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Lana, thanks for the compliments; however, the water doesn't really add to the water in the jars, but the plastic wrap does keep the air around the jars humid which keeps them from drying out. I like the block of water because it keeps in the heat during the night and keeps the jars cool if it gets too hot during the day. It has a lot of "temperature momentum" so to speak. People who've lived by a lake know exactly what I mean.

ShroomGod


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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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nice.
could even use more than one submersible heater.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Out of ignorance, what is the price on one of those heaters? Are those or will an aquarium heater work?

a_d


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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Are there any problems with using a sumbersible heater in a rubbermaid container. Is it possible that it could get to close to the bottom or side and melt the plastic and create all sorts of problems from a small flood to a fire. Any thoughts would be appreciated, this sounds like a project I should do, I have constant problems with temprature control from the air conditioner in the summer to the uncontrollable temps in the fall and winter. The worst part is, my apartment is a house apartment, I don't pay utilities, but my landlord has the controls for the temprature in his apartment,. I can't complain to much, but I do see differences in growth rates at various times..

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Hi Foster, I don't think you'd have any problems as far a the temperature with the sub. heater. You should only need this setup to heat your cakes. And the highest temp on most heaters I believe is around 98 maybe 100 degrees.

If it would melt at say 100 degrees, that would mean if the container was left sitting in the sun on a hot day. Or in a car, in the hot sun all day. It would cause a problem.

I know that it takes much more then 100 degrees to melt/distort plastic.

Plus - tupperware is quality:-) I'm sure their product designers would be upset if they learned that their storage units were melting in people attics on hot July afternoon:-)

Just my 2 cents



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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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100 watt submersibles cost about $20-$30 each.
they are safe so long as kept underwater but if the tank runs dry you got fire hazard pronto.
always unplug heater b4 removing from water or it can heat up & explode when returned to the water, possibly giving you a nasty, even lethal shock.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Bumped this up for SPORE-T and others who might need to know.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Hi ShroomGod, I'm happy that someone brought this post back up to the top of the list again! For those you are in colder climates, this is an EXCELLENT way to heat your mycelium.

I used lights and heating pads for TOO LONG!!! This method is easy, effective, and it's safe!

ShroomGod - I've gotta say it again, THANKS!



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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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alien has a tek similar to this, but his really could be useful for preventing dryage. he has a big tub, deeper than shroomgods, with a few inches of water and then a submersible heater in there... then he has a dry tub within the big one, where the jars go. air holes are put in the right places so no condesation will actually get in the jars, but you wouldn't have to worry about the jars actually drying out. i just built this thing. submersibles are definetly the way to go, it seems.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Hi,
this is a good idea too, but I still cannot tell what this person has done with his heater. Is it laying slanted? Is a different kind of heater? One that can be entirely submersed in the water? With the color of the bottom of his container, I cannot tell if the top is under water, or sitting out. I still don't know if I can submerse my heater. Any more help would be appreciated. thanks.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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incubators are ridiculous and they make the process seem more complicated then it has to be, i have used make sift incubators with no better results then just putting the jars aside in my work area.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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I don?t agree. If you live in an area where the temperatures are getting wery low in winter, then an incubator is a must if you don?t want to wait forewer for your jars to colonize. In my room in winter the temperature is only 68?F, much lower than the optimal 80 to 82 (85?F inside the jar).

Rxwoman: You have to have a submersable heater for this system.



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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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foaf just has a cabinet with stereo components and she sets the jars on top of the EQ that is inside the cabinet and leaves the doors closed. Stays about 85? in there and the jars colonize very nice!
No need for a fancy setup. :biggrin:

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Here is a link
http://alientek.iwarp.com/incubator.html


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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Good idea. But why not simply place the jars into the warm water? This would also really prevent the jars from drying out. Or is your air-humidity high enough with your technique?


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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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This is very strange..were I live it has been getting very cold. See i have my jars in 3 seperate areas inthe house, and the house is mainly heated by a wood stove.The odd part is the ones further away where the tmp. is about 72 F have almost fully colonized while the others at about 80 F are only almost half way(after 9 days)They Are Koh Samui and B+.

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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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Me too. My jars are around 73-74 and have 3/4 colonized in 5 days. PF spores. Interesting. Of course i am a newbie, so I probably don't know what I am talking about. :wink:

Untuned


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Re: Winter is coming: are your jars ready? (w/pics) [Re: shroom|ord]
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THat seems to be a lot of work. just get one of those electric heaters and put in the closet.

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