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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

Edited by Lion (03/08/07 02:51 PM)

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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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I try not to preoccupy myself with thinking I need reasons to be around anyone. Often times this thinking is only in my head and the shadow is my paranoia. That shadow, I would bet, comes off as unconfidence; throws a wrench in things.

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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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bug said:
I'll be the first to come out and say it: I don't want to fuck any of you! :grin: :heart:


You say that now, yet you will change your mind later.  :headboard:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Sexuality [Re: fireworks_god]
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I have had the same thing running through my mind the past month or two. I am trying to give up my horny emotions without giving them much thought. Like damn, I got so drunk last night I totally screwed myself over cause I was gonna fuck that girl. It is just a waste of thought, cause of anxiety/stress, and I am tired of thinking like that.

I want to be able to look at a girl without thinking of her sexually. I can see her as attractive, or not, but it won't effect how I act towards her. It is going to be really hard, and it already is, but I have started doing it.

If I end up in a situation that presents me with sex I am going to take it, but it is not something I want on my mind anymore.


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"You must be the change you want to see in the world." - The trip of a Life Time.

Indra's Net - There is an endless net of threads throughout the universe. The horizontal threads are in space. The vertical threads in time. At every crossing of threads there is an individual. And every individual is a crystal bead. The great light of absolute being illuminates and penetrates every crystal being, And every crystal being reflects not only the light from every other crystal in the net, But also every reflection of every reflection throughout the universe.

-cK

Edited by ck10n3 (01/29/07 06:28 PM)

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Re: Sexuality [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
bug said:
I'll be the first to come out and say it: I don't want to fuck any of you! :grin: :heart:


You say that now, yet you will change your mind later.  :headboard:


fwg pretty much said what I was going to say.

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Re: Sexuality [Re: fireworks_god]
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I believe that during intercourse, the orgasm is a sacrifice of ones self in order to procreate. I have been toying around with the idea of celibacy and brahmacharya for some time now and have managed to remain ejaculation free for 40 days, after which I pulled the goalie to see what the detrimental effects were, if any. The next day at work I would say that I had the worst shift of my year and a half of full time employment. Usually I have a good amount of motivation for the shit I have to do and I would say that I do good work for the most part, but not this day. It didn't even feel like I was all there.. I kind of drifted through the day. I am nice to customers and am happy to provide a good level of customer service, but I was fucking things up, not comprehending what people were saying, etc.

Granted, there is always the possibility that because I was expecting things to be bad after I broke the abstinence that they became bad but I don't think this hypothesis holds much weight due to the fact that my shift was just that bad. My drive to practice guitar and read also was diminished those following days.

99% of American males (and potentially a close figure for females as well) masturbate regularly. Look at how things are going for the culture in which these males stake claim. I cannot say for sure that this is a definitive reason, but my gut tells me that there has to be some correlation.

Sorry for going off on a tangent, but I wanted to encourage you to try celibacy for yourself. By the way, you have to go into it not only with the desire to refrain from sexual activity, but also from the sexual thoughts that trigger the activities. It is hard to deny yourself from looking at what you know is a nice ass, but if you try to see women as human beings with thoughts, feelings, dreams and whatnot instead of just a girl with a nice ass it isn't so bad. Good luck, man.


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Re: Sexuality [Re: WScott]
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Nice post.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Sexuality [Re: fireworks_god]
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we are little computer programs, sexuality can be understood and run by the user rather than the other way around.

if you cut out the transmit beacons of lust from your life and choose to act in ways which cause you to view people as things other than strictly sexual beings, your reality will have little sexual tension and you can sit in a table full of girls, find all of them attractive and pretty, maybe think it would be nice to love them physically, but not feel lust or anything of the sort.

WScottsdale

I went a bit for not ejaculating, probably maybe only a week, and after the first ejaculatoin there was a definite large drop in energy, however I think it rebounded back to normalicy within a day or so.

I've thought of celibacy too.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

Edited by leery11 (01/29/07 06:48 PM)

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Re: Sexuality *DELETED* [Re: WScott]
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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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If you want to read some more on the subject of brahmacharya (restraint, specifically in dealing with the sexual organs) I would point you to this essay written by M.K. Gandhi on the subject.

Brahmacharya by Gandhi


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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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I just wanna bust a nut and smoke some crack...


Well, your point is taken... BUT Your point won't be easily taken by your body's physiology and hormones, that is unless you cut your balls off then you can inhibit this sexual thought to a certain extent.

In all honesty, you're made to fuck. If you didn't have that thought of constantly fucking, then shit, who knows if you'd be here. but that's just what I think from an evolutionary stand point.


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Sexuality [Re: Cracka_X]
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We are made to fuck. We're made to procreate and cover the earth. I think that the point of fucking for pure pleasure without any sentiments towards creating life is debatable however.


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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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Sex is a double edged sword. Sexual union is an ecstatic fusion of two limited individuals into one organism rejoicing in the expanse of space.

One can use sex to fully express one's unconditional love for another being. It can be symbolic for the union of the male and the female, the yin and the yang.

But it can also easily become degraded into a mere sensual object, something one craves and lusts for. Sex can become a mere pleasurable sensation that one seeks after like a drug. So many people can and do become addicted to it, in one form, or another. So long as we wallow in delusion, we really seem to be separate and limited beings, with us over here, and the outside world and other people over there. So long as there is even this slight gap, there is much suffering and we seek to fill the figurative hole with anything we think will make us feel better. But anything we use to fill it up with is inevitably transient and will simply not last. Sex, when used to fill up a hole of anxiety or suffering, to mask pain, or to distract us from our own pain, can be actually harmful, IMO.

Sex can be a truly beautiful expression of truth, of love, of compassion, of joy. But it can also be an expression of delusion, of pain, of anxiety, of uncertainty, of selfishness, and of the endlessly seeking mind.

I don't see sex as intrinsically bad or good, it's just sex. It's goodness or badness comes from how one uses it or expresses it.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Sexuality [Re: dblaney]
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dblaney said:
I don't see sex as intrinsically bad or good, it's just sex. It's goodness or badness comes from how one uses it or expresses it.


i agree with that statement not only about sex but everything. When something is used in a positive way the results are positive, negative manner negative results


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i'm a very evolved ape you know.

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Re: Sexuality [Re: dblaney]
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dblaney said:
Sex is a double edged sword. Sexual union is an ecstatic fusion of two limited individuals into one organism rejoicing in the expanse of space.

One can use sex to fully express one's unconditional love for another being. It can be symbolic for the union of the male and the female, the yin and the yang.

But it can also easily become degraded into a mere sensual object, something one craves and lusts for. Sex can become a mere pleasurable sensation that one seeks after like a drug. So many people can and do become addicted to it, in one form, or another. So long as we wallow in delusion, we really seem to be separate and limited beings, with us over here, and the outside world and other people over there. So long as there is even this slight gap, there is much suffering and we seek to fill the figurative hole with anything we think will make us feel better. But anything we use to fill it up with is inevitably transient and will simply not last. Sex, when used to fill up a hole of anxiety or suffering, to mask pain, or to distract us from our own pain, can be actually harmful, IMO.

Sex can be a truly beautiful expression of truth, of love, of compassion, of joy. But it can also be an expression of delusion, of pain, of anxiety, of uncertainty, of selfishness, and of the endlessly seeking mind.

I don't see sex as intrinsically bad or good, it's just sex. It's goodness or badness comes from how one uses it or expresses it.

well said! :sun:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Sexuality [Re: dblaney]
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I totally agree. From reading your post it had me thinking about the notion of viewing sex as a tool much like I view drugs. Drugs, like sex, can be used for all types of reasons leading to the benefit of detriment of those involved. I feel that the level of awareness one is in mentally directly correlates to how these 'things' are used. The higher your awareness, the more likely they will be used for the benefit of those involved.

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Re: Sexuality [Re: dblaney]
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Quote:
we seek to fill the figurative hole


It doesn't seem so figurative to me!
:laugh:

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Re: Sexuality [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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:lol:


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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I am a very odd genetic mixture of male and female characteristics.
I'd say I am more woman than an avarage guy should be. So I tend to be pretty sentimental and sensitive, like a woman. I guess you could say I have a mind of a woman, but I am heterosexual, I never really felt attracted to any male. I guess I'm a lesbian in a male body.

That being said. While I can certainly imagine myself having sex with any attractive woman when in the right mood, I never had any ambitions to have one-time sex with a woman, or wished such a thing in my life.

All my fantasies of women were to "make love" with them in a very intimate and emotional way, and probably have a long relationship with them, even a marriage.

So while most other guys were checking out asses and thinking how they would love to leave their seed and run away.
My fantasies were to find love with some of them through sex.

I do have that male component of raw lust for body in me, but I felt it only through pornography. Whenever I come in contact with a real woman, that moves, talks, breathes, I can't help but to soften my heard and feel all fluffy inside, and my lust turns in a second into something sweet, like petting a cat, only involving sex as a form of expression of intimacy.

I believe a lot of women feel about sex this way

We all have male and female compoments. The male excitement about body parts and shapes and noises, and the female lust for warmth of intimacy.

It just happens that I have more of this female side in my genes, so I have never lusted a real live woman in my life withouth longing for that emotional intimacy.

I just can't help it but to love those creatures. Even if I get horny about their body, the next second I turn into a big ol bear with a soft heart, and I just have to love them, even if it lasts a short time.

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Re: Sexuality [Re: Lion]
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The idea of free love is good in theory, and may even work for some individuals, but from what I have read in evolutionary psychology sex seems to inevitably lead to some sort of drama. This has likewise been verified in my personal life. IMO, its a bad idea, because you can do emotional damage to a person without even realizing it. I've seen people very scarred, even years later, from careless acts of sex, and to me that's just not worth it. I can't speak for everyone, but personally if I wasn't 110% sure that my actions would not lead to emotional damage, I wouldn't do it-- after all you can just masturbate anyways.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

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