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Cultivating male sexual energy
#7492044 - 10/06/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This has been a common theme in my life, as I am very interested and intrigued by taoist esoteric yoga and it's teachings of cultivating sexual energy.
I know not everyone wants to hear this, but ever since I stopped ejaculating (yet there is still sex) I have felt the presence of this new life force. This life force is a greater flow of creativity, expression, love, bliss, sexual energy, and other such manifestations of this forgotten natural gift.
I have tried ejaculating, just to see how much I would feel drained of this new life force I have been recently cultivating. Every time I feel my life force leaving me and it takes days to recover. When I ejaculate I feel less creative, connected, expressive, aware, conscious. And every time I do this test (or taoist scientific experiment I like to call) the feelings become so much more real, and the more drained I become. It takes the body SO MUCH to produce this source of energy - or whatever it is.
So open the Microcosmic Orbit, hold the semen in and cultivate the mass energy it contains and be a good Taoist!
Are there any of you who have observed and experienced this phenomena within? Feel the chi working the brain?
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7492054 - 10/06/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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been reading Mantak Chia lately?
i'm currently reading his book The Multi Orgasmic Man.
i recommend it to every male on this planet.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7492091 - 10/06/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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onlynow said: This has been a common theme in my life, as I am very interested and intrigued by taoist esoteric yoga and it's teachings of cultivating sexual energy.
I know not everyone wants to hear this, but ever since I stopped ejaculating (yet there is still sex) I have felt the presence of this new life force. This life force is a greater flow of creativity, expression, love, bliss, sexual energy, and other such manifestations of this forgotten natural gift.
I have tried ejaculating, just to see how much I would feel drained of this new life force I have been recently cultivating. Every time I feel my life force leaving me and it takes days to recover. When I ejaculate I feel less creative, connected, expressive, aware, conscious. And every time I do this test (or taoist scientific experiment I like to call) the feelings become so much more real, and the more drained I become. It takes the body SO MUCH to produce this source of energy - or whatever it is.
So open the Microcosmic Orbit, hold the semen in and cultivate the mass energy it contains and be a good Taoist!
Are there any of you who have observed and experienced this phenomena within? Feel the chi working the brain?
I have experimented with this and did not notice all this. Too much ejaculation or too much abstinence both seem to create imbalance but it takes a lot of leaning in one direction to really throw one off balance IMO.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7492115 - 10/06/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Been studying "Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" for about a year now (he tells you in this book to study it until you fully got it, and I'm sure I don't)
This guy is something, the fact that he hosts a dark room retreat, IMO, makes him a truly legit master - bringing back the roots of taoism and their use of dark room. Especially after hearing about his DR experiences!
HUMAN PRIMORDIAL FORCE
Taoist history goes back to the time when everybody was living in nature and in caves. They discovered what we call the Wu Chi, the Original Force or Primordial Force. In those times, the Chinese started connecting with nature and feeling the forces of nature. “In the Taoism of my lineage,” says Master Chia, “the origin goes back to the Wu Chi, the Supreme Natural Power in the universe—in Western terminology, God. It means ‘nothingness,' but it is filled with ‘Dark Matter,' the subtle sub-atomic entities.”
Humans also store part of the primordial force. Starting from the beginning of conception when the egg and sperm come together in the first cell—this cell has the power to draw upon the primordial force, combine with it and form what comes to be a human. Just as when the first cell divides and multiplies, the subsequent reproductions from the original retain the capacity to draw upon the primordial force. The practice of the Inner Smile and the Six Healing Sounds will help to reunite with this force.
When the human body is formed, the sexual organ cells store part of the primordial force. The heart stores part of the original spirit (yuan shen) of the primordial force. The right kidney stores part of the primordial force that supports life and gives more life. When we combine our love, compassion and orgasmic sexual energy, a harmonizing resonance effect arises at the synergistic frequency of eight Hertz. In this state of activation, our cells will draw in the primordial force and a process of cellular intercourse occurs. DNA is transcribed in the nucleus and translated via RNA in the cytoplasm. Cells divide and combine, giving birth to new and improved cells. This cellular intercourse will also occur when we have stored enough of this combined sexual energy (jing) and then combine it with love and compassion energy. The kidneys store part of the primordial force and connect with the earth force, which also has the same eight Hertz frequency.
There are many rooting Chi Kung practices in Taoism to help ourselves to be energetically rooted into the earth in order to access its primordial force. Earth force is combined with the universal primordial force so that it is a source of the major force that is closest to the quality of human force. The Heavenly Primordial Force and the Earth Primordial Force combine with Human Original Primordial Force (such as the combination of creative life forces at human conception of the first cell). Thus, we can give our new cells' DNA the support of the creative life forces that nurtured our first cell—original reproductions, but genetically enhanced versions through the power of ‘positive personal engineering'.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: Icelander]
#7492121 - 10/06/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said:Too much ejaculation or too much abstinence both seem to create imbalance but it takes a lot of leaning in one direction to really throw one off balance IMO.
Agreed, sometimes the energy is just too much and I have to ejaculate. Too much energy = unbalance. Maybe if I were as mastered as Mantak Chia I could never ejaculate yet remain totally centered.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7492125 - 10/06/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I study Penthouse. I think I have the technique down. (almost)
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: Icelander]
#7492129 - 10/06/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That will get the energy flowing
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7492142 - 10/06/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i remember him speaking of exchanging your excess yang energy with a female partner who can absorb it. that way the build up of sexual energy would not overwhelm you.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7492161 - 10/06/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes he talks about that in the book I am reading, male and female work together like a single entity exchanging energies making the cultivation of this sexual energy not as "overwhelming" like you mentioned.
Yet he talks about methods for those men without partners, and how they can cultivate this sexual energy and still remain centered. That is why he stresses so much that it is important to open the microcosmic orbit before you start trying to cultivate this energy.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7492166 - 10/06/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can relate to this. If I have a lot of sex I feel drained. Same if I overeat/eat crap. I'm not sure if it has to do with "primordial life force" or not but if I abstain for like a week, I feel like I have more energy and clear thinking comes easily. Same with fasting...it's almost like a small dose of mescaline. It takes a lot of energy to digest food (up to 25%!) and I imagine the same is true for growing a perpetual army of sperm. It only seems natural to me, that if our bodies are using a limited amount of energy to run house, and a bunch of that energy is freed up, it will show up elsewhere.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: Grok]
#7492181 - 10/06/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can relate to this. If I have a lot of sex I feel drained. Same if I overeat/eat crap. I'm not sure if it has to do with "primordial life force" or not but if I abstain for like a week
Food definitely has something to do with it, eating unhealthy food is so much for your body to process and this cuts off receptivity to energy. I don't think they would feed you BBQ beef at Vipassana meditation retreats
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7492218 - 10/06/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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to open the microcosmic orbit first is reasonable, after all the energy needs to flow.
i think a macrobiotic diet would greatly help when it comes to food. excess yang could be balanced by moderately eating yin foods. but regardless of whether we are trying to cultivate our sexual energy or not, healthy eating habits are always an integral part of happiness and well-being.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7492230 - 10/06/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ginseng! (get the yin or yang kind.. your choice!)
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7493575 - 10/07/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's nothing magical about blue balls. You're full of "life" because your body is telling you to ejaculate.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7493929 - 10/07/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This certainly is true in my experience. It seems when I do not use my sexual energy it is cultivated. It stays stored in the body giving me more vitality and greater sustained energy throughout the day. Also when I ejaculate it is almost as if my spiritual development stops until I recover from the release of energy. My meditations are much less fruitful, yoga is at a much lesser intensity, and just the flow of the day seems to be less harmonious! I truthfully believe that there is a connection, the pattern is consistent. Also there is quite a body of evidence in the yogic/tantric philosophic text that will attest the to the fact that semen is the fluid which hold a lot of energy and gives the body vitality, a quick google search would suffice. Some of it may be backed up by western scientific research, but the yogic text have about 6000 years or more of experience to back up their findings, which is enough for me. -peace
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Yes
when I was off at my own place I lost interest in things sexual and did not ejaculate for at least a week.
Then I thought to do tantric masturbation and had a LOT of chi to work with, I was really surprised.
I am not a master at this and wound up ejaculating, quite volcanically.
Needless to say my chi level is now a lot lower, and I have heedlessly spent the seed two times in the past 2 days.
I would say people are dense and not willing to listen yet I do not know as I have not really tried to talk to them.
But this is clearly a superior method. Why wouldn't you want: multiple orgasms increased vitality? You aren't losing anything but not ejaculating. You are gaining everything. It feels better, the orgasms are really long.
(circumcision is evil and malfunctional.)
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: leery11]
#7494447 - 10/07/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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leery11 said:(circumcision is evil and malfunctional.)
Agreed!
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i like my foreskin. it's niiice.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7494756 - 10/07/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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can you give me one?
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: leery11]
#7494767 - 10/07/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i want one too 
mother fuckers takin my shit at birth without my permission i will get my revenge.....................
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7494817 - 10/07/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i want one too 
mother fuckers takin my shit at birth without my permission i will get my revenge.....................
i want one two mother fuckers my shit birth without my permission i will my revenge
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wear the grudge like a crown of constant negativity calculate what we will and will not tolerate desperate to control all and everything unable to forgive the scarlet-letterman HEY WE'RE SINKING DEEPER
anger is a coal, you can throw it at people but mostly its just you that gets burnt.
get out of the anger stage as quick as possible.
plus, no one circumcises out of malice
it is a perpetuation of ignorance
so to 'pay it back' (what nonsense) WITH deliberate malice, is to be far more evil than they are in their unwitting 'good intention'
like if i step on your foot on accident and you punch me.
it is tricky to understand the devil, or should i say, evil, or should i not even use duality, yet to understand without condemnation
understand that humans are energy conduits and fallible insofar as they are not omniscient, capable of doing things they think normal which turn out to be harmful
and that we truly do make the world, the entire world, blind if we harbor vengeance and seek to return an eye for an eye
and it isn't just an eye for an eye, it is more like 12 eyes for an eye if you are a vengeant pirate
both of you are completely wrong. Step #1: Know. Step #2: Let others know. Step #3: No more and/or less circumcision in this world.
no one listens to a ranting raving angry lunatic.
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: leery11]
#7494986 - 10/07/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i am wrong if i were to be actually angry.. that is just letting them win and being a TOOL. but it's good to joke
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: leery11]
#7495001 - 10/07/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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^ that post could apply to either me or onlynow, let's not get stuck up on the messenger
revenge is perpetrated on one self
"without my permission i will get my revenge"
we never can have complete control, and we usually don't realize when we've been given something which we asked for
what is control anyways? is it anything more than an attachment to a specific outcome? why do we choose or visualize a specific outcome? we think that is the outcome that will make us happy, so we steer ourselves in that direction even if it makes us completely miserable on the way
"without my permission, i will get everything i ask for"
realize that with all our words we cast spells, jokes are the release of nervous tension caused by truth
everything is funny but in what context
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EternalCowabunga said:what is control anyways? is it anything more than an attachment to a specific outcome?
could be
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having the ability to make a choice that changes how we feel about our circumstances and the way we go on about our lives?
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7495061 - 10/07/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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control usually has the negative conontation of trying to manipulate something exterior. making that choice to let ourselves feel differently is an internal letting go
as long as we are trying to control a certain outcome, we will feel the same way if we succeed or fail
when we let go of one way of doing things, another choice becomes available. how we feel about our circumstances is also connected to what we expect out of them.
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EternalCowabunga said: what is control anyways? is it anything more than an attachment to a specific outcome? why do we choose or visualize a specific outcome?
control involves a motivation, so one needs to ask, what is my motivation?
do i wish to change my life for the better or the worse?
once i have established this i can choose my outcome and steer towards it.
this IMO is one of the core principles to cultivating health and well-being, this includes sexual energy.
willpower is everything.
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i feel that way about controlling as well. but when we have that ability to let go and realize the better choices in life, is that not self-control?
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Re: Cultivating male sexual energy [Re: onlynow]
#7495190 - 10/07/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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sure it is, if you want to define self-control that way
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