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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: evolprim]
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please remember not to take anything too damn seriously

:laugh::thumbup:

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: CerebralFlower]
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there comes a time when you lose that desire.. or some men do like me which is probably rare. alot of it is how we are programmed, our bodies and especially the media.
yes, as males we have the urge to mate, but females have the exact same thing programmed into their genetics or whatever you would like to call it.


the urge to "mate" is programmed by many means, life being the umbrella term and following that are family, friends, society, media, teachers, enemies. Basically we are shaped by our genes and the world around us so i just wanted to make sure you weren't blaming genes and ignoring the possibility for change in our world.

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the purpose is to produce life. but the media takes it and gives us 1000000X more desire than we would ever of had in the wild.


the purpose is subjective! the purpose could be for profit (prostitution), desperation for human connection, societal pressure, tradition, lust, hate (rape), or anything!

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[control desire repression control]. you dont see animals fucking the whole year round all the time everyday, as most humans would like to.


i sure as hell wouldnt like to fuck year round. its a single activity to bring joy to a single mindset. if my house is on fire the least thing i carry about is having sex, it would only bring me joy to see my family safe at that time. this is an extreme representation of our constantly changing wants and needs in life. sex is one out of a billion.

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well this is because there lives are balanced. reproducing is not on their minds constanly, and they have alot else to worry about other than fucking.


reproduction is always on their minds, and ours. its something we are constantly aware of weather or not we choose to think about it consciously.

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probably the reason you feel like fucking other girls is because you havent spent time with those other girls and also you are unable to express and fufill your emotional connection with them.


"probably"? maybe. women get old after a while and variety is needed. that is something i can almost guarantee you. no matter how much love there is its almost impossible for your mind not to wander and think of all the other girls. and where does this mind-wandering take you? it can lead to more than a horny masturbation session. you can choose to be selfish and act on these thoughts without worrying about your lover.


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life is confusing, but i can tell you the desperateness we have come to is not natural or beneficial to us or our species our or planet which is overpopulated with peoples kid's when the parents are even in love, or knowledgeable enough to reproduce. the desperation we have come to is not natural either.


oh yes it is! how is it anything BUT natural? are we not natural beings in a natural world? what other than god can be unnatural? are you submitting to a higher power? are you that incapable of being sad or lonely that you must ignore your own feelings of desperation and brush them off as "unnatural"? excuse the talk about god but the rest of that is gold.

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if we were cavemen, we wouldnt have the desire to fuck all the time. part of it is because women dress so provacatively and wonder that is why men can only think that (atleast in cerain periods of their life). it is hard for them to understand it from out perspective i guess causse they arent programmed with the same hormones, they are more recieveing to create life, not initiating.


women dress provocatively for a reason. they are not ignorant of their actions and to think otherwise is an insult to all women. its not to provocative clothing that turns us on so, its the women and the clear and present realization of their beauty. or whatever.

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well anyways like i was saying its not natural to be so horny and desperate. After becoming so much less desperate i realized it is a learned thing, as are so many other things which we think are inherintly natural. Reading this book about tribes of the amazon (current era) only reiforced my idea.


a good book is the kind that reinforces ideas, good is subjective.

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They actully get married there. They are less desperate because they are not so detached from their natural lives and hormones. and they have much more to worry about like surviving.


we get married here, dont we? yes. most people arent as desperate as you make them seem. very few, actually. we worry about surviving, thats we we go through the bullshit processes of going to colege, getting jobs, working our way through an office building till eventually you hold ranks over enough people to make a number in a data file go a bit higher. that number gives you more money and money = survival here in the 1st world. you cant use our money in an african village and a little african man could not survive in our conglomerate world.

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If you think about it lustful sex wasnt realistically an option for people until the relatively recent invention of condoms and contracectpive devices.


no not at all

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If you had sex, youre fucked in 9 months.. this is why women wore so many layers of rediculous clothing back in the day.


nononononono
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i know the desperation has instinctual roots, but it is for certain not natural to desprate as 99% of us are.


sorry but i REALLY disagree with you on most of this.

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maybe we are becoming so desperate to expand our race, because the end is coming soon in 2012(i doubt it) and we messed up not devoting our energy into space travel and colonization.


we just reached space a few decades ago, whats your prob?
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but yea, alot of people experience desperation, but not everyone.


no, everyone.

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since our genitals and our feet our usually covered up they have become super-sensitive. walking on the ground can be just as pleasurable (if you are in the right state of mind). I have felt estatic just by hiking barefoot, and i could tell it was making the earth feel good aswell.


hahah you make me want to go run around outside barefoot. if only it was after a summer shower and not 10 degrees in the snow.


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: a2ndopinion]
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I'm with you on this subject. You pretty much said everything I would've said. Thanks for covering that for me! :wink:

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: mr_kite]
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First, ask yourself "What do I want?"

If lustful thoughts bring suffering to you (you say you feel bad) perhaps you should observe them and watch from where they arise.  You are attached to the idea of sex with women other than your girlfriend.  Do you want to have sex with women other than your girlfriend?  If not, from where does this idea arise?  Do you blame your genes?  Do you blame the media?  Who controls what your eyes see?  Who controls what ideas you choose to value?  If you choose you can identify the source of these ideas.  If you choose you can eliminate them from your consciousness.  Many of these ideas are deeply ingrained and the process will not be easy.  Perhaps it will be a process, an endless journey from the way you are to the way you wish to be.  Isn't all of life?  If you find it increasingly difficult there are things that can aid you.  Different things work for different people: yoga, self-reflection, journaling, therapy, etc.  There are many options. I believe that most internal conflict arises out of dishonesty.  Does your girlfriend know about these feelings?  How would it make you feel if you told her?  Think critically about this, however, because you can never be sure of how someone will react to honesty.  We spend much of our lives being dishonest to ourselves and to one another.  True honesty is often very difficult to accept.

If you search your heart and decide that you truly want to have sex with other women, then you should pursue that desire.  There is no objective value assigned to monogamy or polygamy.  You decide what is right for you.  You choose how you wish to live your life.  Beware, however, because desire is a tricky thing.  When you have sex with other women, what then?  More sex?  Perhaps you will be like Wilt Chamberlain and sleep with 20,000 women in your lifetime.  If this is what you truly want, pursue it!  Whether or not this will ultimately fulfill you is a question you must ask yourself.  Either way, let no one judge you for your actions.  Do not feel shame for living life the way you choose.

Perhaps you should simply meditate on this for some time.  There is no rule that says you must act now or in either way, but until you decide what you want no amount of advice or guidance will help your situation.  It is not a bad situation to be in, having a choice.  Sometimes we call it freedom.  Enjoy it!

:heart: :sunny: :heart:


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Everyone of us has all we need
Sky of blue and Sea of Green
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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: CerebralFlower]
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CerebralFlower said:
A2ndopionon- You are wrong about "as long as you dont tell your partner about these feelings". the more you hide something the more it eats away at you. 'the thoughts we try to deny take a toll upon our lives'. if you embrace your thoughts, you dont cling to them. stopping them from flowing by internalizing and denying them will only confused you more and make you feel guilty. being honest is sometimes hard, but it is the only way things will really work out.


i hear ya dude... but that is taking what i said a little farther than i was intending. i believe that communication and trust are the foundations of a relationship. i tell my boyfriend everything that i would expect him to tell me. however, i don't think it's warranted, nor do i feel the need, to point out to him every other guy that i find attractive. so, that's basically what i was saying to that guy. it's natural to find other people attractive... but it's not necessary (or thoughtful) to walk down the street with your girlfriend ogling the asses of other women and moaning to yourself, or blurting out phrases that begin with, "damn, she's looking so good i'd like to---". trust me, she doesn't need or want to hear that.

now, if it's something more serious... like you can't stop fantasizing about a specific person other than your significant other... then i think that "a little talk" is needed between the two of you. a significant other deserves to hear that kind of info. i know that people think that as long as you keep it at "just thoughts", it's going to be ok... but, then it goes back to what CerebralFlower was saying about how the thoughts will build and build with no outlet, often resulting in cheating... and as i've said before, cheating is a lousy thing to do to someone.


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Boo, you whore.

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: mr_kite]
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mr_kite said:
Our honesty and commitment to eachother means that we have complete trust, and we know that we would never cheat on eachother. I feel very lucky to be with such a great girl.


:smile::thumbup: awesome


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Boo, you whore.

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: adrug]
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adrug said:
I'm with you on this subject. You pretty much said everything I would've said. Thanks for covering that for me! :wink:


no prob.  :wink:


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: a2ndopinion]
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you talk like you know what youre talking about when you dont... ahh you have alot of experience to show you, hopefully youll get it then


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God says dance with your heart
And shake free of you desire

Where theres a will theres always a way
When you get confused listen to the music play


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: CerebralFlower]
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CerebralFlower said:
you talk like you know what youre talking about when you dont... ahh you have alot of experience to show you, hopefully youll get it then


Pssst...Your ego is showing. :shiftyeyes:


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: CerebralFlower]
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i beg to differ. i have had plenty of experience... and i definitely feel confident in stating my opinions on this thread.

i noticed you felt free to state your opinions. although, it seems to me that your posts were the ones that stirred up the most confusion and disagreement, i still read them and appreciated them for what they were.

i don't think it is helpful, in life, to assume that one's opinion or take on any particular subject is the Paragon of Wisdom. IMO, the world makes a lot more sense and seems much more fulfilling when we assume that we all have something to learn from each other.


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Boo, you whore.

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: CerebralFlower]
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CerebralFlower said:
you talk like you know what youre talking about when you dont... ahh you have alot of experience to show you, hopefully youll get it then


sarcasm

Yeah, because you have a great frame of reference for healthy relationships, right?

/sarcasm

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: mr_kite]
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so, I didn't read every response so far, only about the first page and a half.

Sex is good, and healthy. Period. Your sexuality is your own business, as long as your expression of it is respectful towards others(ex. rape is unacceptable.)

If you want to sit around smokin spliffs, and wankin off to daytime soap opera's and free internet porn. Then thats your business. If you wanna fuck 8 women at once while spankin a stuffed animal, also your business. as long as everybody participating knows whats goin on and is into it, have fun.


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Re: Wanting to fuck *DELETED* [Re: Sunny]
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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: Lion]
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don't be retarded. this isn't the OTD.


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: mr_kite]
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Its all about desicions.

I recognize pretty girls when I see them, but because I don't want to wreck my relationship with the most awesomest incrediblest fantastubulistic girl in the whole friggin' world - I just recognize their beauty and go on living my fantastic life with the fantastic girl I love.

If you have a desire to fuck other women, whats the case? Are your sexlife not satisfactory?

If it isn't, you should take it up with your partner, rather than screwing around and fucking everything up for everyone.

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so, I didn't read every response so far, only about the first page and a half.

Sex is good, and healthy. Period. Your sexuality is your own business, as long as your expression of it is respectful towards others(ex. rape is unacceptable.)

If you want to sit around smokin spliffs, and wankin off to daytime soap opera's and free internet porn. Then thats your business. If you wanna fuck 8 women at once while spankin a stuffed animal, also your business. as long as everybody participating knows whats goin on and is into it, have fun.



As long as everybody participating and/or is involved in the situation, or may suffer from it or lack thereof - then I agree totally.

However, nothing beats a hot sexlife with your hot girlfriend, which you love deeply, no matter what the fuck you say.

Relationship is something we need to live.

And btw, there are no modern ideals. There are only perversities of old habits.


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The argent messenger of truth beyond truth, the antithesis of life, cruel and bleak as interstellar space, pulseless and frozen as absolute zero, dazzling with the frost of irrefragable logic and unforgettable fact.

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: slaphappy]
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slaphappy said:
Its all about desicions.

I recognize pretty girls when I see them, but because I don't want to wreck my relationship with the most awesomest incrediblest fantastubulistic girl in the whole friggin' world - I just recognize their beauty and go on living my fantastic life with the fantastic girl I love.

If you have a desire to fuck other women, whats the case? Are your sexlife not satisfactory?

If it isn't, you should take it up with your partner, rather than screwing around and fucking everything up for everyone.

However, nothing beats a hot sexlife with your hot girlfriend, which you love deeply, no matter what the fuck you say.

Relationship is something we need to live.

And btw, there are no modern ideals. There are only perversities of old habits.


awesome.  :smile:


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: slaphappy]
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I totally agree.


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: slaphappy]
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slaphappy said:
Relationship is something we need to live.


In which manner do you use the word "relationship" - what are you intending it to represent? Why is it necessary for us to live?

We naturally are in relation to every aspect of reality, and yet we do not need a life-mate in order for us to live. I guess I just have a hard time understanding what you mean with this statement. :shrug:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: fireworks_god]
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I dunno about needing a life mate to live. But humans go crazy with out social interaction. Literally crazy.


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Re: Wanting to fuck [Re: Sunny]
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I agree with you. My point was that he was referring to needing relationships to live in the context of his comments regarding sticking with one girlfriend and not having sex with other women, which is why I asked for elaboration.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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