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Shrooms bring schizofrania?
    #6380628 - 12/17/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I think im becoming a schizo from shrooms! My mind is scattered all over the place. I've eaten a couple ounces in the last couple months and I think that they are starting to get to my head alittle bit. Do you think all that shrooming could cause this?


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6380663 - 12/17/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

If I were you I would stop the tripping
lay off for a few months
still feel the same seek medical attention


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6380664 - 12/17/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

While you probably aren't at risk of becoming genuinely schizophrenic (although some people are predisposed to this condition, and it can be precipitated by tripping), shrooms can definitely scramble your head a bit. Take a break and sort out your reality, try to integrate some of the things that shrooms have shown you into your life, patch up your ego, whatever.

I haven't done any true psychedelics in over a year now because I observed some real train wrecks and I needed to get my head straight. I think that it was a wise choice.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: DadeMurphy]
    #6380671 - 12/17/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

don't do so many shrooms...


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6380715 - 12/17/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

shrooms can cause symptoms similar to those of "schizophrenia".

take hallucinations and delusions of grandeur for example. those are pretty much only experienced by schizophrenics and those under the influence of psychedelics.

however, I wouldn't take this to mean much because terms like schizophrenia don't mean much really. psycologists need a term to base their theories on and advance their own research.

i think that most mild to moderate mental disorders can pretty much be resolved by meditation and taking control of your own mind. admittedly, I used to get some pretty strong panic attacks, which i could have easily dismissed as being caused by weed (which made them occur stronger and more frequently). however, I took the hard path and stuck with weed but instead learned to relax and restructure my illogical thoughts making the connection.

In short, it was just me thinking the weed made the panic attacks appear that made it so. Once I stopped thinking about it that way, everything was fine. It's been years since any panic attacks or being afraid of something irrationally and i've been chiefing pretty hard.

as for your case Pika, I think shrooms can have the same effect if you believe it to be true. they are not causing you to be scatterbrained (which is not even a symptom of schizophrenia by the way), but your association brings the two unrelated things together.

on the other hand, 2 ounces in 60 days is like a gram a day, or 4 grams every 4 days, which is pretty heavy dosing. i've had a week where i trip every day, but not a two month thing like you have. might i add, that after the 2nd day it only took about a gram to get me going.

so, tripping every other day or every three days might not be the best for ya. you know yourself and what you cannot mentally handle. if you cant handle so much and you're losing clarity of mind then just dont shroom so much.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizophrenia? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #6380728 - 12/17/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

No, you don't have schizophrenia.

Yes, you should lay off the psychedelics.

I had that same issue over the summer when I found myself tripping just about every week. If you limit yourself to a trip every few months you'll find them to be a lot more meaningful and powerful too.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizophrenia? [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6380928 - 12/17/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

yeah u definately arent developing schizophrenia from shrooms everyone gets a lil scatterbrained sometimes but to follow up keefboy scatterbrained isnt a symtom of schizophrenia... schizophrenics actually tend to be very collected in their thoughts.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6380946 - 12/17/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

You,ll be ok :laugh:, just lay off, or slow down.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: rod]
    #6381157 - 12/17/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

You say he will be ok and just law off for a bit but think this could be something bad
Shrooms and LSD and other drugs really FUCK with your mind
Take Syd Barrett
Now some say he was already fucked up but he went off the edge
and Pink Floyd wrote that one song "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" because one day Syd didn't show up and they later found out he was tripping. They said he OD on acid and was never the same, "Now there is a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky". These drugs can lead one to become INSANE. You should be very careful with them, I do not know if they will cause schizophrenia but I know that they can cause other things. I read some where that LSD re-wires your brain and it takes a month after your last trip to get your brain back to normal ( or what they say is normal). But I also hear that shrooms and acid can cause tumors in your spine. Not sure on that one but I think they can cause tumors in your brain. It is a lot about how much you do at once, more so then how much you trip. Someone once told me that after you do acid 6 times you are insane, I do not think this is true but I have only done acid 6 times. What I am saying is you should lay off the drugs for a while, think for yourself.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: clemens]
    #6381193 - 12/17/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

shrooms or lsd CANNOT cause n e type of tumor although the spine thing is somewhat true... lsd stays in ur spine for ur entire life but this is a thread on shrooms so... if u really feel so inclined lay off, but i dont think you have any sort of "condition" the shrooms just boggle ur mind. especially if uve been hittin it pretty heavy for 2 mths then it would definately leave u sorta dazed so lay off for 2 wks and i dont c any reason u wouldnt b fine


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: clemens]
    #6381306 - 12/17/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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clemens said:
You say he will be ok and just law off for a bit but think this could be something bad
Shrooms and LSD and other drugs really FUCK with your mind
Take Syd Barrett
Now some say he was already fucked up but he went off the edge
and Pink Floyd wrote that one song "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" because one day Syd didn't show up and they later found out he was tripping. They said he OD on acid and was never the same, "Now there is a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky". These drugs can lead one to become INSANE. You should be very careful with them, I do not know if they will cause schizophrenia but I know that they can cause other things. I read some where that LSD re-wires your brain and it takes a month after your last trip to get your brain back to normal ( or what they say is normal). But I also hear that shrooms and acid can cause tumors in your spine. Not sure on that one but I think they can cause tumors in your brain. It is a lot about how much you do at once, more so then how much you trip. Someone once told me that after you do acid 6 times you are insane, I do not think this is true but I have only done acid 6 times. What I am saying is you should lay off the drugs for a while, think for yourself.




you need to stop going by here say.

drugs don't cause insanity. they can cause an increase in awareness, which in turn, can make people feel like they are insane because they never viewed the world as it is.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: Syle]
    #6381310 - 12/17/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

lol, thank you, I was going to spend the next 100000 minutes writing crap about that. you summed it up nicely :smile:


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: ashfiken]
    #6381327 - 12/17/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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ashfiken said:
shrooms or lsd CANNOT cause n e type of tumor although the spine thing is somewhat true... lsd stays in ur spine for ur entire life but this is a thread on shrooms so... if u really feel so inclined lay off, but i dont think you have any sort of "condition" the shrooms just boggle ur mind. especially if uve been hittin it pretty heavy for 2 mths then it would definately leave u sorta dazed so lay off for 2 wks and i dont c any reason u wouldnt b fine




what about the spine? i have a feeling it's complete horseshit.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: Syle]
    #6381334 - 12/17/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

ashfiken said:
shrooms or lsd CANNOT cause n e type of tumor although the spine thing is somewhat true... lsd stays in ur spine for ur entire life but this is a thread on shrooms so... if u really feel so inclined lay off, but i dont think you have any sort of "condition" the shrooms just boggle ur mind. especially if uve been hittin it pretty heavy for 2 mths then it would definately leave u sorta dazed so lay off for 2 wks and i dont c any reason u wouldnt b fine




what about the spine? i have a feeling it's complete horseshit.




LOL, I feel the same way :P I've heard acid stays in your hair.


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: zootroid]
    #6381346 - 12/17/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

yep lsd also stays in your hair just the same way weed does lol :grin: (thats y u cant b a pilot if uve smoked weed in the last 10 yrs cuz they test ur hair and it stays there for 10 yrs)


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: ashfiken]
    #6381355 - 12/17/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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yep lsd also stays in your hair just the same way weed does lol :grin: (thats y u cant b a pilot if uve smoked weed in the last 10 yrs cuz they test ur hair and it stays there for 10 yrs)




Sources?


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: ashfiken]
    #6381358 - 12/17/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

and syle... lsd does stay in ur spine for 10 yrs although it doesnt really do anything there


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: ashfiken]
    #6381368 - 12/17/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml

thisll prove wat lsd does so i may b wrong and ill get back to ya on the weed


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: ashfiken]
    #6381384 - 12/17/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

"LSD is almost entirely metabolized within a day after ingestion. Since the half-life of LSD is only a few hours, only a very small amount of LSD remains even at the end of the trip, and this is excreted in the urine. All traces are undetectable after several days and are certainly gone entirely within a couple of weeks. As detection technology improves and thresholds drop (it is now possible to detect picograms reliably), the time that incredibly small amounts of it could be detected will extend."

"Occasionally, people claim that LSD has been found in spinal fluid years after the last time LSD was taken. There is no support for this claim. If anyone knows of a research article that has looked at spinal fluid of LSD users for LSD, please let us know."

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml


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Re: Shrooms bring schizofrania? [Re: zootroid]
    #6381399 - 12/17/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

haha yep thats y i got that info just to b sure and c wat it says?? lol :naughty:


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