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Re: cyans! [Re: CptnGarden]
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Congrats! have fun!

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Re: cyans! [Re: canid]
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concretefeet said:
you know, i hear this all the time. there is no good evidence to support this notion that picking in this manner kills patches. you know what does kill patches? trampling them. aside from intentional iradication, that's the only thing i've seen cause serious harm. even a thorough raping by overzealous kids, where actualy significant amounts of spawn is removed will not generaly do damage that is not recoverable by the next season.


Here's what gets me:
I figured, if cutting is the general rule for harvesting wild mushrooms, it will be consistent with harvesting cultivated mushrooms....
I did this the first time, and the remains of the stipe turned brown/black, and began to rot. I dug out the rotten segments, and decided I best pull them out. They came off of the substrate surprisingly easily, and without the negative aspect of rot.

I talked to me friend about this (a fairly experienced cultivator) and he said something along the lines of "what? Oh, I've never heard of that rule. I always just pluck my flushes, and they grow back fine."

So what's all that about??? I'm starting to agree that this long held conviction concerning harvesting method may hold little or no bearing.
An what i mean by "little" is that, perhaps some species with particularly strong mycelium should not be yanked on, but that the majority of mushrooms are unaffected.


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Re: cyans! [Re: CptnGarden]
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that's the reason, you're sure? how did you test this?


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Re: cyans! [Re: canid]
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concretefeet said:
that's the reason, you're sure? how did you test this?


My thoughts exactly. Can't infer that plucking the shrooms caused them to discontinue fruiting. There are many things that could attribute to the lack of growth.

What about that one patch? Why did it continue to fruit? Did you not tell your friends about the remaining patch?


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Re: cyans! [Re: CureCat]
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Quote:
.even a thorough raping by overzealous kids, where actually significant amounts of spawn is removed will not generally do damage that is not recoverable by the next season.


True its hard to kill a patch.....but you sure as hell can effect its seasonal performance.....pulling cyans is WRONG...it DOES do horrendous damage, it wouldn't kill you if i cut off your foot, but your performance sure as hell would be poor.
CureCat said:
Here's what gets me:
I figured, if cutting is the general rule for harvesting wild mushrooms, it will be consistent with harvesting cultivated mushrooms.....


Cutting is the conscientious for Cyans.....Twisting while pulling is standard for cubes....they are totally different beasts.


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Re: cyans! [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
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ESanceOfCyan said:
CureCat said:
Here's what gets me:
I figured, if cutting is the general rule for harvesting wild mushrooms, it will be consistent with harvesting cultivated mushrooms.....


Cutting is the conscientious for Cyans.....Twisting while pulling is standard for cubes....they are totally different beasts.


That is fine. I'm extending my scrutiny towards the method applied to all mushrooms in general.


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Re: cyans! [Re: CureCat]
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okay, im no offical "guardian of the cyan" but i can tell u that u can only pull the mushroom out of the ground ripping mycelium for 2 reasons,

1. - to keep the mycelium butts for inocculating other patches. of
course don't obliterate a whole patch, only a few should do. and
see the cardboard spawn post in the forum, good advice about how
to incubate wood-loving mycelium

2. - u happen to be walking in the park to see the garden of eden and
happen not to have scissors. even so, if u can help it, with one
hand grab the base of the stem, and with the other twist and rip
it off.

happy shrooming, and one thing i do for good karma is whenever i take prints, i bury the sporeprint somewhere with a suitable habitat. (of course this means pretending to drop a bunch of change in the parking lot of mcdonalds or something..lol)


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Re: cyans! [Re: kron_weed]
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oya, and blackend cyans in my opinion are fair game, however they tend to really upset ur stomach tho...just my opinion


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Re: cyans! [Re: kron_weed]
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secure the cap and stem in your left hand, pinch with the nail of your right thumb and side of your index at the base of the mushroom. tada! doesnt upset the patch either. no need for woodchips, 2 cyan stems (can even be bone dry and then rehydrated and will still work) will start 10 lbs of spawn.

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Re: cyans! [Re: CptnGarden]
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Okay... have you ever picked P. cubensis or P. subbalteatus?? Well, the mushrooms themselves can be plucked very easily from the mycelial roots without damage. The roots are very loosely fastened to the base of the stipe.

I am assuming that P. cyanescens are different. That the fruiting body seems an extension of the roots, and that pulling it up, would pull up colonized substrate and the roots alike, damaging the mycelium network?

I am starting to realize, that many Fungi do not grow with such tough roots, and that plucking them from their roots, does no damage to the patch itself. I could be wrong.


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Re: cyans! [Re: CureCat]
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CureCat said:
Okay...  have you ever picked P. cubensis or P. subbalteatus??  Well, the mushrooms themselves can be plucked very easily from the mycelial roots without damage.  The roots are very loosely fastened to the base of the stipe.

I am assuming that P. cyanescens are different.  That the fruiting body seems an extension of the roots, and that pulling it up, would pull up colonized substrate and the roots alike, damaging the  mycelium network? 

I am starting to realize, that many Fungi do not grow with such tough roots, and that plucking them from their roots, does no damage to the patch itself.  I could be wrong.


i think u hit the nail on the head :wink:


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Re: cyans! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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i always pick cyans from the ground with my fingers, but i always always make sure to pinch the stem and break it off rather than ripping it up from the ground, hence, ripping up the mycelia as well. :smirk:


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