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USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN.
    #6252989 - 11/06/06 12:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

http://infowars.com/articles/ps/no_fly_list_new_law_no_fly_for_all_americans.htm


WE ARE ALL SCREWED IF YOU ARE NOT WITH THESE GUYS!!!!!!!

PEOPLE WE MUST STAND UP FOR OURSELVES!!

THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!!

AMERICA IS SUPPOSE TO BE FREE!!!!!
NOFLY LIST GOOD OR NO!?
You may choose only one
YES
NO


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253000 - 11/06/06 12:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Go smoke something and take a nap.


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253002 - 11/06/06 12:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

For more information on this proposed regulation, see
http:// hasbrouck.org/IDP/IDP-APIS-comments.pdf

or
http://infowars.com/articles/ps/no_fly_list_new_law_no_fly_for_all_americans.htm


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253003 - 11/06/06 12:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

hah ok man u think its a joke


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253004 - 11/06/06 12:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

sour diesel don't sound bad right about now though hah


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253010 - 11/06/06 12:21 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think it's a joke, I just don't think you need to type in all caps.


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253017 - 11/06/06 12:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I should be actively saving every dollar from my work to put it in a savings account until I formulate a solid plan to live somewhere else ... then I can utilize a bank full of funds to find my way out of this warmonging hell-hole and hopefully into a nice beach or mountain spot in some vacant, reasonable part of the world ...


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: HB]
    #6253061 - 11/06/06 12:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Your 60-Day Plan

We're going to make this as simple and straightforward as possible.

There are three aspects to leaving the country:

* choosing a destination that will be both safe and open for
immigration (numbered in blue);
* assembling the documents you will need to start your new home
abroad (numbered in green); and
* gathering your assets and making them transportable to your new
home (numbered in red).

You're going to need to proceed along all three fronts at once, so
we'll use the color-coding listed above to help you keep things in
their proper category.

We've divided this up into eight one-week periods. In less than 60
days, you can be out of the country with the doucments you need to
obtain residency in your new home and some money available for a new
start.

Week 1 1) If you don't have a passport, apply for one immediately and
pay for the expedited process.
2) Apply for new copies of birth certificates for everyone who is
going.
3)

Go to these websites to begin researching destinations:
* [4]entry requirements by country;
* [5]economy, weather, safety, politics;
* [6]our choice and why;
* [7]a Flash movie about our choice and why

4) If you own a home, find an auctioneer with experience selling
real estate who is able to set an auction date for your house,
vehicles and personal goods within 30 days (it CAN be done), and tell
them you want to close on the real estate within 30 days of the sale
(it CAN be done). Collect all important documents: your mortgage,
title insurance, termite inspections, property tax receipts, etc.
5)

Begin sorting your personal items into four categories:
* for sale
* give to charity
* to move (keep this very limited)
* to store for now

Week 2 1) Narrow your destination list to four or five countries and
research these in more depth. Purchase and check out some books on
these countries.
2) Obtain official copies of criminal reports, transcripts,
diplomas, certifications.
3) Decide what to do about pets. If you're considering moving them,
go [8]here to begin your research.
4) Get physicals for everyone who's going and have them notarized.

Week 3 1) Take this week off from work.
2) Choose a destination. If you can afford it, make reservations to
travel there by Week "6". If that country's primary language is
unfamiliar to you, get a phrase book and begin learning a few
"basics". Begin to narrow your focus to one or two areas/cities within
your destination country.
3) Now that you know your destination, get apostilles for all your
documents. (If you're trying to limit your traceability, this will
require some special care.)
4) Get a mail drop within an hour's driving distance of your current
home.
5) Consider converting stocks, 401(k)s, bonds, etc. to cash and
begin the process now.
6) Complete your sorting process and do the following:
* assist your auctioneer with the cataloging process for your sale;
* haul the charity items away;
* secure storage
* secure an international mover and set a pick-up date BUT arrange
for storage with them until you give them the go-ahead to ship

Week 4 1) Do what you can to assist your auctioneer to publicize your
sale that should be taking place at the end of this week.
2) If you can't make a visit to your destination country prior to
leaving the country, consider starting a bank account through the
Internet (with care).
3) Catch up on what you didn't get completed last week.

Week 5 1) Do sale follow-up: be there for people to pick up items they
bought; property inspections; foul-ups.
2) If you have established a bank account abroad, transfer enough
money to take care of expenses for 3 months.
3) Review all the documents with apostilles and check them against
the entry requirements for your destination country, preferably using
that country's own information and not the U. S. Embassy for that
country.
4) Make reservations for your final departure for a day a few days
AFTER the closing date for your real estate.
5) Send your change of address cards to the necessary parties. If
you have someone you trust, use the mail drop as your forwarding
address and let them pick up the mail and forward it to you once
you're gone.

Week 6 1) If you've arranged to make a pre-departure visit to your
destination country, go now with enough cash on your person to cover 3
months expenses. If this is more than $10,000 per person traveling,
report it to U. S. Customs using Fincen Form 105. Make sure someone
responsible stays behind to handle any matters related to the sale,
and give them an adequate power of attorney.
2) While you're in your new country:
* set up a non-resident bank account;
* if you plan to establish a company (the best way to immigrate to
most countries), begin that process;
* scout out places to live for the medium term

Week 7 1) Consider transferring the bulk of your assets abroad at this
point. Otherwise, give someone you trust a power of attorney to
transfer money after you leave. Or prepare to transfer all your assets
in cash on your person when you leave. Worst option: wait until you
arrive abroad to instruct your U. S. bank to transfer money. You can
expect it to be held up, perhaps indefinitely.
2) Be around for the pickup of the goods you plan to move. Again:
instruct the movers to keep the items in storage in the U. S. until
you instruct them to put them on the boat.
3) Push the closing along. Call and stay on top of everyone involved
to make sure everything is completed by the closing date.

Week 8 1) Close on your property. Either move the proceeds as cash on
your person or wire them and hope your bank doesn't hold it up because
of the Bank Secrecy Act and Patriot Act.
2) If you're taking more than $10,000 per person in cash, declare it
using FinCen 105.
3) Wave good-bye as you board the plane.

Act Now

There it is from start to finish. Is it a lot of work? Yes.

Would it be a good idea to have someone to help on the other end who
can give you specific guidance about your destination country's law
and requirements? I wish we had had someone like that.

Are there some risks along the way? Of course, and most of them are
because the time is now so short. But compare those risks to the
consequences of doing nothing in the face of this growing threat.

You can be sure that the ruthless people currently in power in the U.
S. have plans for what they will be doing over the next 60 days.

You need to have your own.


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #6253062 - 11/06/06 12:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

the above is a repost from another forum,

i'm not sure where it originally came from...


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #6253068 - 11/06/06 12:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Man, i reallly hate this country some days...... most days.... allright fine... All of them,


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253089 - 11/06/06 12:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I don't like that idea. I've been flying places on airlines my whole life. Even when I was only 8 years old I started flying alone to visit my father who lived in GA. I flew down there around 3 times a year alone.

Now I fly to all kinds of places just for the hell of it, To travel and experience new scenery/places.

Just what we need.. more hassle to fly, like it isn't already enough of a pain in the ass with all of the increased security.

I used to want to become a pilot anyways since I like planes so much. Might as well become one and get a private plane, shit.


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: HB]
    #6253094 - 11/06/06 12:45 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

HB said:
I should be actively saving every dollar from my work to put it in a savings account until I formulate a solid plan to live somewhere else ... then I can utilize a bank full of funds to find my way out of this warmonging hell-hole and hopefully into a nice beach or mountain spot in some vacant, reasonable part of the world ...




you should come to Israel :wink:
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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: Simisu]
    #6253103 - 11/06/06 12:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

only if Israel is in Tahiti ...  :cool:


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6253164 - 11/06/06 01:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Penguarky Tunguin said:
I don't think it's a joke, I just don't think you need to type in all caps.




IF i did not have to type in caps i prolly would of never posted.

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THIS BOTTOM LINE!

This is part of a plan that they have been working on for thousands of years. You think that the spanish inquisition happen just cuz some man thought christianity was the true religion LOL, or cuz they thought blacks and indians as primitive so we can just slaughter them f*#k no! They killed over 200 milion of them in this so called NEW WORLD (bet they don't tell u that in your school books) It was bcuz of what they believed and what they were capable of. And now they are trying to keep us here and tell us what to eat polluting our food, these guys are f*$king nuts.

The vice is closing this is the end of the line. If we don't do something now these guys are going to close it.

Do you own research. These guys own everything. These guys molded you in every shape and form, you got to be retarded not to see the shades these guys got over your eyes WAKEUP .. this type of information deserves caps people need to realize just how real this is, thousands of years worth of work finally coming to a end into a new era!!!

BTW i don't think we are dealing with just a group of people..
i think its something we are bred not to believe.. FOR NOW AT LEAST!!


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: HB]
    #6253167 - 11/06/06 01:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253179 - 11/06/06 01:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

There are no other sources reporting this, and the link posted in that article is invalid. Perhaps a bit of hysteria?

I'm interested in this if there is any substance to it.

Edit: OK, found the proposed regulation, which amends the current regulation requiring airlines to submit their passenger manifests no later than 15 mins. prior to departure. The proposed new regulation would require them to submit the lists 60 minutes prior to departure.

The list is then "vetted" against the Federal No-fly and Watch lists, and any matches are investigated prior to approving the flight for take-off.

This is a FAR cry from a new law having been signed into effect which puts every U.S. citizen on the no-fly list. This regulation has not even been approved, and is a minor modification of existing regulations which allow security checks of passengers prior to takeoff.

Hysteria, indeed.


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #6253187 - 11/06/06 01:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BIGSWANG said:
http://hasbrouck.org/IDP/IDP-APIS-comments.pdf




look at that if you want more sources


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: dmthead420]
    #6253188 - 11/06/06 01:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I don't really care.. I'm sure that I'll still be able to fly wherever, whenever.


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: Boom]
    #6253229 - 11/06/06 01:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yall are nuts mind drones and shit.. do some research... free your mind
a good starting source is jordan maxwell .. just listen to what he
says then look it up for ur self u cannot deny the truth, although u may
not want to here it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8394844811105390386&q=toxic+religion


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Re: USA NO FLY LIST IN EFFECT first month of JAN. [Re: Boom]
    #6253233 - 11/06/06 01:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

ive been looking for the bill on regulations.gov

the bill is suposedly uscbp-2005-0003

i cant find it..so im not to sure about this one


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