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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: Cracka_X]
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Cracka_X said:
I grew up with Picard but I think Kirk handled everything much better than Picard. Picard lost Yiar(man do i feel like a nerd) Did Kirk lose any of his crew? And Kirk is just better anyway. He didn't have all the technology picard had and still kicked ass. I can remember all the characters in Kirk's crew while Picard I can recall a few but Kirk's crew is universally known. Sure Picard has Data, but Kirk has Spock who totally kicks ass to a new level of shit! I mean it's no contest.



Kirk lost his own son in the third movie. To Fucking Kahn. the worst villan ever. He lived on Paradise Island for Christ Sake!


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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: Boglyn]
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Kahn was a motherfucking BADASS villian. Star Trek II was the best out of all 10 or 20 movies that have been made.

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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Remember the ear worms. I had nightmares about those things.


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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: Boglyn]
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The mind-controlling ear-worm thingees creeped me the hell out. That was way scarier than the borg in my opinion.

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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: theuser]
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Picard for sure.Even I think a starship captain shoudl have a bit of maverick in him Kirk took it to a corny level and picards sense of refinement just make him come out on top.also th fact he did face at least IMHO more formidable adversaries makes him the better captain


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All that is now
All that is gone
All thats to come
And everything under the sun is in tune
But the sun is eclipsed by the moon.

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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: eclipse]
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Damn straight, 72% picard. He's just the man, no questions asked. There's always an uncertainty with Kirk, like what the hell is he thinking with all those pauses. Picard just says it like it is, right to your face. lol funny poll


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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: eclipse]
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Picard by any rational standard.

But Kirk was pimp.

splif


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Re: Kirk or Picard? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said:
Cracka_X said:
Did Kirk lose any of his crew?


Only about a bazillion security officers.


Hehehe... True enough! Pretty much if you had a red shirt on, and you weren't Scotty, you were doomed in the first 5 minutes.

I am a much bigger fan of the original Star Trek than I ever was of the Next Generation for many reasons. However, the characters I did like in Next Generation were Picard and Data. I just don't like them as much as I like Kirk and Spock.

The original Star Trek was more hokey and corney, but I enjoy those qualities.

Star Trek seemed like a basic morality play which addressed many of the issues facing America in the 1960s, racism, the cold war, man's fear of being replaced by computers and machines, et cetera, and it was one of the first science fiction shows on TV to do this well (with the exception of the Twilight Zone).

One of the things that I loved about the original Star Trek was that it seemed to embrace humanity and individualism more than the Next Generation did. The people in the original seemed more like individuals with the foibles of individuals. Scotty liked to drink his scotch; Kirk liked to "get his groove on" with alien chicks; Bones kept going on about being an "old country doctor." Personally, I just found them more appealing on some level. The Next Generation seemed a little slicker and a little colder; the characters seemed a little flatter and made out of cardboard.

However, these are just my own personal observations and preferences. Star Trek was also the only game in town when I was young, so I naturally have a personal nostalgia for the show.

One thing that the Next Generation did give us, however, was a metaphor for the coming problems of overpopulation, rampant technology, and the postmodern shift, and that was the Borg. The Borg was a great literary device to illustrate one of the potential paths that humanity itself may go down, if we're not careful. It's a device that still serves us to this today, perhaps now, more than ever. I don't think the Borg appeared until quite later in the show though.

I think that the Borg being the menace in Next Generation is a little ironic, because I've always felt that the Next Generation crew itself had made that leap toward "future man," which is a little smoother, politically correct, and well-oiled; a little more mechanical in a social sense. The next generation crew seemed a little less personally interesting and idiosyncratic; more cog-like. Not like that undisciplined, over emotional, and all too human crew of the original show.

Ah, shit! I don't know. This is not very clearly thought out. I'm just tired, spaced out, and prone to rambling right now. I should just delete this load of rubbish, but I invested time in writing it, so I might as well post it...


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