Lysergic_Milkman said:

Dosing a baby on LSD is definitely bad, whether it's convulsing or not. The infant mind is in constant growth and is susceptible to any and all drugs that work on the brain. whether LSD would change a baby's brain for the better or worse we don't know, and it would be inhumane to try and find out. The mind of a small child consumes about 60% of it's energy (about 20% for everyone else), and LSD most likely increases the brains energy consumption. If a brain that is already taking up more than half the body's energy suddenly starts sucking up more energy, the consequences could be fatal.

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AA2277 said:

Could an admin PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD UP

its got terrible vibes to it and is horribly unconstructive. just flaming here, its pointless and angry

if you really think its useful could we get some sort of regular check up on it?

just being a little angry...

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Close this thread up because it's got bad vibes and is angry?  Yeah, ok man.   What percentage of threads here are not pointless?  It's a message board.  It's angry because people are getting involved and are actually moved by what the thread starter had to say.  Nothing wrong with some conflicting opinions.  So why not add your opinion to the matter and not get all sensitive to some angry posts.  The thread starter asked for it if you ask me.  If he can't handle an onslaught of conflicting opinions, let him go.

stemmer said:

I cant think of one reason to come here but to say that those who dose anybody without them knowing are making a dreadfully stupid mistake.

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Haven't you already gotten that point across?

AlteredAgain said:

stemmer said:

I cant think of one reason to come here but to say that those who dose anybody without them knowing are making a dreadfully stupid mistake.

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Haven't you already gotten that point across?

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Telepylus said:

me and my ex-wife

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stemmer said:

Interesting sidenote: In some SA indian tribes they give babies one large drop of an ayahuasca brew to ward off sickness.
I know the healing powers of ayahuasca both physical and mental.
Although I would not give such a small dose to my child, it is an interesting idea. I dont blame them for believing that. I dont think that is very stupid, unlike the discussion about dosing babies..

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mattzdope said:

stemmer said:

Interesting sidenote: In some SA indian tribes they give babies one large drop of an ayahuasca brew to ward off sickness.
I know the healing powers of ayahuasca both physical and mental.
Although I would not give such a small dose to my child, it is an interesting idea. I dont blame them for believing that. I dont think that is very stupid, unlike the discussion about dosing babies..

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Contradict much?

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ExplosiveMango said:

Ok, to start off with, I think the fighting going on in this post is fairly ridiculous.

You're all just yelling your fundamentals at each other as 'cleverly' as you can. No information exchange is taking place. Why?



But off to the subject of what we're actually fighting about...
My view:
Dosing people with psychedelics is always dangerous, whether they know what they're getting into or not.
People will not necessarily like or dislike a psychedelic, whether they know what they're getting into or not.

If you decide you want to dose a person on a psychedelic with or without them knowing, think very fucking hard about what the consequences could be first.

There IS NO fundamental rule "it's bad to dose people when 'blah blah'"

All life is circumstantial.
If I had dosed Hitler on LSD when he was beginning to form his religious roots, thousands of Jews may have been able to avoid horrible deaths.
You will never know the future your actions will cause, but you can rest assured that psychedelics are tremendously powerful.



If you're going to respond by telling me a definite way to/not to use psychedelics, save your breathe. I'm immune to your fundamentals (aka prejudices)










But onto another interesting topic that was only glanced at - 'dosing the whole world'

This seems to remind me of Manson's idea?

Although in my mind it seems absolutely crazy to dose a single unknowing individual with LSD... unfair, chaotic, dangerous...
The implications of being able to dose a large number of people seem very promising to me.

I mean... think about one thing psychedelics reliably do... break barriers in your mind...

North America is suffering tremendously due to mental barriers. We want our way of life regardless of the fact that it's unsustainable... we want to take what the rest of the world has so that we can eat McDonalds every day and take "Hydroxy-cut" pills to not put on weight. We want SUVs, and sounds systems that draw enough energy to feed a starving family.
(point of view of the statistical average only, not any certain individual)

The majority of the world - the suffering world - desperately needs to destroy the barriers we erect around ourselves to ignore their pain.

We choose not to see this. We give their desperation a name... let's call it a "witch" or... a "terrorist"... an excuse to reinforce our walls, to murder the starving who steal our tablescraps...

I say take a fleet of aircraft, load em all up with a ton of LSD, drop it all over our 'civilized world' and watch the walls of fear and hate shatter... to the infinite disappointment of our elite few, and the infinite relief of our suffering masses.

Make our soldiers think about why it's right for them to murder.
Make our businessmen think about why it's right for them to plunder.

Take a good hard look at everything we've taken away for granted.

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