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Yopo (DMT) - how?
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My smart-shop send me 9 Yopo seeds and I wonder how to prepare them and is it enough to achieve anything and is there anything that I should know?


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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Yeah I think that one of the Erowid trip reports having the name "Amizonian Torture Drug" is worth mentioning. So if you can't handle pain consuming your entire being for 30-45min than you might want to leave it alone. With that said; take 4-5 seeds your first go. Get a skillet and heat it on the lowest temp. place the seeds on it and wait for them to get soft. (the heat makes the moisture start to come out which makes the malliable) Now take the seeds and bend them so that the outer shell breaks but not so much that you crack the whole thing in half. Now work the seeds innerds out of the shell. discard the shell and break the innerds into pieces and return them to the pan. Continue cooking at a low temp until the seeds are brittle. Crush them with a mortar & pestle until powder. You need to mix this powder with an akaline material to make the alkaloids as easily absorbable as possible. Some people use baking soda. I am skeptical about how well this works. The easiest thing for you to use would probably be wood ash. Use the really really fine stuff. Eyeball out 1/3 of the total powder and use that much ash. Mix it until its a greyish-tan color. Load it into a straw or other tube. Hold your head back a little stick it in your nose and, well, you know. It goes like this. Your head will feel like its on fire. You will puke hard. You will be purified with pain. Then after about 30-45min you will fall into a deep sleep for about an hour. Then you will wake up tripping and completely cleansed. Its a good thing.
Have fun be carefull...blah..blah...blah...
-peace


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Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities.
-Stephen Hawking

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
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I think Id have to pass on that bull.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
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Concerning the title of the post...Yopo seeds contain 5-meo-dmt as well as n,n,DMT

Most of the effects are coming from the 5-meo-dmt and probably some other unknown alkaloids,I asume.

If your after an experience like one produced from smoked freebase DMT then this is not your bag!


thanks mr.minds eye,you described the process very well.


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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
:clementine:
MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
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wow, sounds pretty unpleasant.


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: whatever123]
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Bufotenine is the main active component in these seeds according to Pharmacology of Bufotenine

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Up to 7.4% bufotenine has been found in seeds of A. peregrina var. peregrina, only 0.04% 5-MeO-DMT and 0.16% DMT; 12.4% bufotenine in A. colubrina var. Cebil, with but 0.06% and traces of both tryptamines, respectively. Seven studies of 15 samples of Anadenanthera snuffs likewise showed bufotenine to be the only tryptamine present in significant amounts (up to 2.67%, with only traces of 5-MeO-DMT and DMT)


Edited by Dnumde (04/29/06 01:43 PM)

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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My English sucks but I should manage to prepare it properly. I prefer powerful but not overwhelming first experience so I wonder how much seed should be enough to achieve average potency.


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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man dont do it, get huasca yopo is a bloody mess


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: thedudenj]
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I reccomend not taking any advice from the above poster.


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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
:clementine:
MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
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you just want that poor guy to snort that bull shit. That stuff is for tough rain forest people with high pain tolerances and a low IQ.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Psychoslut]
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wow your a mean person like the poster below you said its painful as hell but i disagree about the low IQ those poeple were enlightened. Second if you do have yoppo you could do an alcohol extract evap all the alcohol then smoke that shit or vap it with parsley or oregono or pot or tabbacco and take and maoi such as syrian rue or caapi but a really low dose just enough for it to act upon it too much maoi blocks effects
Ps the onlt reason i have bad rating is because ignorant people that do these kinda drugs just to get high and are lost to the ways of the shaman and if they read an aristole book the would drool and go duh


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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"The easiest thing for you to use would probably be wood ash. Use the really really fine stuff. Eyeball out 1/3 of the total powder and use that much ash. Mix it until its a greyish-tan color."
To make it clear. Any wood will do? I burn it down to the ash, take 1/3 of yopo powder (from 4-5 seeds) and mix it. Than prepare for dying in pain, tears, screams, etc, right? I wonder what do you mean by saying "use the really really fine stuff". You mean yopo or woods or ash or what? Sorry for shitty English but I don't want to make something wrong.


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: thedudenj]
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If I can feel ultimate pain and survive than probably it would be much easier to accept painful death. Besides I've problem with acceptance of physical pain so the hard way could be quite enlightening. Hope that spirits won't get too nasty.


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5535990/an/0/page/1
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum1&Number=5541950
haven't tried it, but it sure does sound a lot better than snorting :thumbup:

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: stefan]
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personally i put it in a smoking blend and it did alot i made the same blend wieghted everything exact with out yopo and it made a big differance


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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Kras said:
"The easiest thing for you to use would probably be wood ash. Use the really really fine stuff. Eyeball out 1/3 of the total powder and use that much ash. Mix it until its a greyish-tan color."
To make it clear. Any wood will do? I burn it down to the ash, take 1/3 of yopo powder (from 4-5 seeds) and mix it. Than prepare for dying in pain, tears, screams, etc, right? I wonder what do you mean by saying "use the really really fine stuff". You mean yopo or woods or ash or what? Sorry for shitty English but I don't want to make something wrong.


I know that some types of wood like mountian laurel are supposed to be toxic. So that would be a bad idea. I have always just used and sort of misc ash from a firepit where pine or various hardwood was burned. I would start out with at least 4. That's the number I used. The pain doesn't seem to increase all that much with a couple more seeds. If you're going to do it, do it right, so I'd go with 5-6. Also keep your racist, ethnocentric bullshit to yourself please. Being a fucking asshole doesn't add anything meaningful to this thread. By the way the pain is part of the experience. It isn't as bad the next time around. You have to get your cherry broken so to speak. It is worth it. On the other hand there are maybe 3 people that I have tried to get to try this. Only 1 has taken me up on it. I got him to do 8 seeds. He had an amazing experience but it scared that shit out of him and I doubt that he would ever do it again. So that is why I'm not recommending that you try any more than 6 your first go. I think that its worth it, but with that said this is a once every other blue moon sort of thing.


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Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities.
-Stephen Hawking

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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Hey! Wait a minute. It's not me who said anything racist! Besides I was the one that said that I seek to face fear whatever the cost...


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Kras]
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It wasn't directed at you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


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Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities.
-Stephen Hawking

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Psychoslut said:
you just want that poor guy to snort that bull shit. That stuff is for tough rain forest people with high pain tolerances and a low IQ.


:grin:

"High pain tolerance and a low IQ" lolol

They know the potency of a plant without consuming it, dude, they're brilliant people they simply think on another level.

Thousands of years of isolation. Personally, I think you gotta be kinda smart to live in a jungle where probably over 100 different organisms could easily kill you. Way more than that, actually...

But honestly, what animals do you have to fear in your area? A black bear maybe? These people live with 200+ lbs snakes, dude.

Granted, they've got weird theories, but what is to be expected from a people whom live in deep isolation, surrounded by jaguars and shit, constantly taking psychedelic drugs?

Would you swim with pirahnas? Didn't think so.


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Herbus]
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Well said


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Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities.
-Stephen Hawking

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
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I tried smoking it and with weed it was a rewarding but far from profound experience. It was great to have a light trip with near my girlfriend. Great as mild psychedelic.


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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Psychoslut said:
you just want that poor guy to snort that bull shit. That stuff is for tough rain forest people with high pain tolerances and a low IQ.


this is the most unhappy post i´ve seen from you, Psychoslut.
if your IQ is so high why don´t you get yopo pleasantly working for you?

yopo is not painful necessarily, it is painful only because people are simply ignorant when preparing and administering the snuff by roughly trying to imitate the original preparations which are quite unknown outside the natives circles.


FH

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Re: Yopo (DMT) - how? [Re: felixhigh]
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Wood ash is a bad idea, as it's from where sulfuric acid is produced. Better to take dead garden snail shells and bake them at low temp and then grind them in a mortar. Plus, one should score through the surface of the seed to let out steam, and then one should roast yopo on low heat, through and through and then hull them, and not return the hulled seeds to a pan. It only takes about ten-fifteen minutes. At 325, in the oven. Then one isn't stupidly carbonizing the goodies. With very subtle entheogens delicacy is required.

Then grind both powders together until superfine like powdered sugar. Then insufflate.

One will get some mild-medium heady feeling and altered perception, but it won't ever be quite as strong as virola or some other more potent hallucinogen. That said, the altered perception was pleasant enough that entire races - Aztecs, Mayans, etc, had snuff boxes where they carried the stuff and used all through the livelong day. Their noses must have been pretty tough.

I recommend virola however.


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