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Men hallucinate after eating fish
#5535361 - 04/19/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Men hallucinate after eating fish April 19, 2006 - practicalfishkeeping.co.uk
 Rabbit fish are one of several species of fish known to cause hallucinatory fish poisoning, but the problem is very rare outside the Indo Pacific.
Two men have suffered terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations after eating poisonous fish in Mediterranean restaurants.
According to a clinical study on the patients, which is due to be published in the journal Clinical Toxicology, the men started seeing and hearing terrifying things after contracting a rare form of hallucinogenic poisoning from the fish they were dining on.
Ichthyoallyeinotoxism, or hallucinogenic fish poisoning, is caused by eating the heads or body parts of certain species of reef fish and has previously only been recorded from the Indo Pacific.
The effects of eating ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as certain mullet, goatfish, tangs, damsels and rabbitfish, are believed to be similar to LSD, and may include vivid and terrifying auditory and visual hallucinations. This has given rise to the collective common name for ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes of "dream fish".
Pommier and de Haro of the Toxicovigilance Centre Antipoison at Marseille's Hospital Salvator, who undertook the study, said that the men had both eaten a fish called Sarpa salpa, and subsequently suffered from CNS disturbances including terrifying hallucinations and nightmares.
One of the men, a 40-year old, was admitted to hospital suffering from a digestive problem and terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations, which took 36 hours to disappear. The second man, a 90-year old, suffered from auditory hallucinations a couple of hours after eating the same species of fish, followed by a series of nightmares over the next two nights.
The poisoning can start to cause vivid hallucinations within minutes of eating a poisonous fish and may last for days, often with no other effects. There is no antidote.
Ichthyoallyeinotoxism Indoles, with similar chemical effects to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) are believed to be responsible and may be consumed when the fish eat algae or phytoplankton containing the chemicals.
Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.
Sarpa salpa The hallucinogenic fish consumed by the men was a member of the Sparidae family and is commonly known as the Salema porgy.
The fish reaches a size of around 50cm/20" and occurs through much of the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean.
For more details on the hallucinatory fish poisonings see the paper: de Haro L, Pommier P (2006) - Hallucinatory fish poisoning (ichthyoallyeinotoxism): two case reports from the Western Mediterranean and literature review. Clin Toxicol (Phila). 2006;44(2):185-8.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: veggie]
#5535379 - 04/19/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow Excellent. Now to figure out the dosage...
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Moxemerald]
#5535436 - 04/19/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man I just read saw the article on ebaums, this is fucking crazy.
The nightmares can't always be terrifying, I bet they ate way too much you know, thinking that its NOT going to fuck you up lol just dinner
I'm getting on google to order some right now.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Atheist]
#5535441 - 04/19/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cool looking fish too
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: veggie]
#5535753 - 04/19/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool! I remember hearing about this fish but not about anybody taking it. Maybe more will try now!
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Wysefool]
#5535993 - 04/19/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just wait till they make the fish illegal.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: veggie]
#5536068 - 04/19/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hrm... doesn't seem like it is quite time to get the fishing pole out yet
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Jim]
#5536553 - 04/20/06 05:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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this just in: the DEA has killed every single rabbit fish, and have stated that owning or selling these hallucinogenic fish carry a mms of 5 years the dea said. "these are a schedule one drugs OK? if we find any fun loving hippies that have these type of fish in their aquariums, we will prosecute. its as simple as that" said John Holmes of the DEA. He also went on to state that they are in the process of training German Shepard's to sniff out these "schedule one fish". budsky. shroooomery neeews.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Hamstercut]
#5536647 - 04/20/06 06:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Budsky said: this just in: the DEA has killed every single rabbit fish, and have stated that owning or selling these hallucinogenic fish carry a mms of 5 years the dea said. "these are a schedule one drugs OK? if we find any fun loving hippies that have these type of fish in their aquariums, we will prosecute. its as simple as that" said John Holmes of the DEA. He also went on to state that they are in the process of training German Shepard's to sniff out these "schedule one fish". budsky. shroooomery neeews.
LOL! it could happen too.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: blackout]
#5536865 - 04/20/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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wouldnt at all suprise me. they made a naturally growing mushroom/ plant illegal to have and consume... why not an animal>?.. im going to try and get some of these fish as well.. they just look cool.. salt water thou and i bet their expensive
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Banez]
#5537972 - 04/20/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wish Pot came from animals, then we could train them to run if there's a bust going down!!
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5541281 - 04/21/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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fucking awesome. i wonder if i could get a fish like this for a pet.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: veggie]
#5541909 - 04/21/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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lolzz
I think the demand for Rabbit fish just increased 30 fold!~

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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Roadkill]
#5542222 - 04/21/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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But are they really good? The government don't know their asshole from a hole in the ground. Just because they say it make you hallucinate don't mean it's a good trip. Strychnine makes you hallucinate too.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5543284 - 04/22/06 07:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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^^ good point./
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: RemainRandom50]
#5543313 - 04/22/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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im buying some rabbit fish this weekend, im going to eat thier heads...ill let you know how it goes.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Hamstercut]
#5543380 - 04/22/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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it probably won't f*** u up didn't you read that it is RARE? It be cool if all of them did that though. I'd have a 1000 gallon fishtank with them and I'd eat 3 a day lol.
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: time2]
#5543423 - 04/22/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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the poisoning is rare maybe because most people don't eat the heads? or maybe because most people cook the fish?
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5543440 - 04/22/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hope everyone realizes that it would be bad karma to murder these fish to het high...
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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5544015 - 04/22/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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but its not bad karma to murder a mushroom to get high? or a cannabis plant? I don't get your reasoning.
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