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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5544045 - 04/22/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

One might argue that a plant is a relatively benign life source, whereas a calculating animal is a conscious life source (more) capable of feeling.  Then again, if you're eating the fish first and foremost for nutrition (with a slight hope that you might get something extra), then there should be no problem :grin: .. unless you're a herbivore by choice of course.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: geokills]
    #5544067 - 04/22/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

plants have consciousness too. We are simply not accustomed to understanding it. You can't say that plants don't feel if you have never spoke with one.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5544725 - 04/22/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Those fish are alive, they have eyes and brains similar to yours. Psilocybe mushrooms are a fungus and in nature they develop after the spores of the species are ingested by a cow.

So they exist because of being eaten, whereas those innocent little fishies do not also depend on being eaten to survive... :evil:

DROP THE NET AND STEP AWAY FROM THE AQUARIUM YOU PSYCHEDELIC JUNKIES!!


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: veggie]
    #5544762 - 04/22/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmmm BTW...


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The effects




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similar to LSD




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terrifying hallucinations




Since when?  :zoom:


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5544826 - 04/22/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Those fish are alive, they have eyes and brains similar to yours. Psilocybe mushrooms are a fungus and in nature they develop after the spores of the species are ingested by a cow.

So they exist because of being eaten, whereas those innocent little fishies do not also depend on being eaten to survive... :evil:

DROP THE NET AND STEP AWAY FROM THE AQUARIUM YOU PSYCHEDELIC JUNKIES!!


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Hearsay. Do the mushrooms exist because of being eaten or is psilocybin designed as a deterrent to keep them from being eaten? What about cannabis? You MURDER the plant to get high! Just because something is similar to you does not make it better then something dissimilar. Or is there something I'm missing?


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5544882 - 04/22/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You could clip a harvest of bud off a plant, regenerate it, and then go plant it in nature, thereby "freeing" it, if you'd like...


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5544918 - 04/22/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you could also cut a little piece of the fish brain and then leave it alone and let it heal...


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5544988 - 04/22/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Na, you might make him swim funny, or not be able to make adorable little fish noises to other fish. :nonono:

Invasive organ theft is not the answer. Why not just synthesize the active chemical involved? Much, much more humane to the fish..  :thumbup:


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5544999 - 04/22/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you don't even care about the plant your talking about mutilating. Trying to be all self-righteous regarding the fish LOL.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5545095 - 04/22/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

And you seek to justify the senseless mutilation and organ looting of a magestic aquatic species of fish just so you can try to see colors and spill beer on all your friends. :nonono:


Stick with LSD :lol:


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5546129 - 04/23/06 12:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

LOL you couldn't even comprehend my argument?

I thought, with that line in your signature about 'making them think your stupid,' I wouldn't have to spell everything out to you....  :ooo:


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5546999 - 04/23/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I understand it. So you're saying that plants are concious and aware and so each have their own ego?

What evidence do you have supporting this?


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5547140 - 04/23/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm saying that life is life. Saying that eating a plant is better karma then eating an animal in an unjustified claim. We have no point of reference to plant life so we shouldn't go around saying that plants don't feel or think just because we cant understand them.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5550159 - 04/24/06 03:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well then I guess we can't go around thinking that the rocks don't have feelings either then can we? They're part of big mamma Earf.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: veggie]
    #5550206 - 04/24/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think I will stick to my various homegrown psychoactives for now, but if you are so inclined...

The site saltwaterfish.com is advertising this foxface rabbitfish (Lo vulpinus) for just $29.99 (including shipping) with a 15 day survival guarantee. I just love the disclaimer...

"By purchasing this item you are aware that it is poisonous and deadly and you agree that by purchasing this item Saltwaterfish.com is not responsible for any injury or death that may occur"


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5550325 - 04/24/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

we were talking about life.  :frown:


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5550663 - 04/24/06 10:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Those fish are alive, they have eyes and brains similar to yours. Psilocybe mushrooms are a fungus and in nature they develop after the spores of the species are ingested by a cow.

So they exist because of being eaten, whereas those innocent little fishies do not also depend on being eaten to survive... :evil:

DROP THE NET AND STEP AWAY FROM THE AQUARIUM YOU PSYCHEDELIC JUNKIES!!


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humans are just advanced forms of bacteria.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5551032 - 04/24/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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we were talking about life.  :frown:




How do you know rocks aren't alive?


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5551080 - 04/24/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

were talking about fish , sure a fish has a life but its still a fish., i eat fish 2 days a week at least. I love to go fishing. i dont see any more moral conflict in breeding fish for psycadelics than breeding fish for omega-3. Also scorpions are used as a drug in certain parts of the world, ie afghanistan. And you have toads with tryptamines and whatnot, I had a list somewhere over psycadelic fishes, I belive there was around 10 species (that is known, the ocean is probably full of goodies we havent encountered yet) maybe it was more, i doubt it was less.


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Re: Men hallucinate after eating fish [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5551097 - 04/24/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You couldn't hang with the logic so you had to change the argument. I get it.  :undecided:


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