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Wolfgang Grasse - "Tribute to Death"
    #538448 - 02/02/02 11:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

http://members.tripod.com/artvisionary/

Grasse's paintings reek of fantasy and magic. Scroll down to see his work.

Note the "mantid angels" that greet you upon dying. This was done in the mid-1800s.

DMT anyone?


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Re: Wolgang Grasse - "Tribute to Death" [Re: Swami]
    #538462 - 02/02/02 11:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly, the non-ordinary states and visons experinced on dmt are related to the intrinsic nature of the mind, and are not exclusively avaliable through the use of psychedelics.


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Re: Wolgang Grasse - "Tribute to Death" [Re: mm.]
    #538562 - 02/02/02 01:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Have you "seen" angels or mantids while in waking consciousness without the use of entheogens?


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Re: Wolgang Grasse - "Tribute to Death" [Re: Swami]
    #538622 - 02/02/02 03:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No, I haven't, but I can readily imagine them. What do you think? That someone drew an angel or mantid one day, and all the ones drawn since have been copied versions of the original? What is more likely is that these are like archetypal images, linked up to the nature of our mind. What is art other than the expression of our inner state of being.


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Re: Wolfgang Grasse - "Tribute to Death" [Re: Swami]
    #538645 - 02/02/02 04:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oh no! Not fantasy and magic! We are doomed!

        :laugh:          :laugh:            :laugh:

Swami you need to realize myths, fantasy, and magical tales have just as much place in our world as does science. Without them there would be no sense of wonderment or creativeness for us humans. Ancient myths and storytelling serve an important purpose in passing down stories (albeit they get twisted around along the way) of history and giving us humans a sense of wonder. Humans can tend to get carried away with thinking they are the supreme dominating beings of the planet, we need these spiritual archetypes to put us in our place in this rather large Universe.

So you see... fantasy is a double shot. It nurtures the imagination while also having the ability to relay stories through many generations 


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Re: Wolgang Grasse - "Tribute to Death" [Re: mm.]
    #538738 - 02/02/02 06:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What do you think? That someone drew an angel or mantid one day, and all the ones drawn since have been copied versions of the original? What is more likely is that these are like archetypal images, linked up to the nature of our mind.
I can't say that is more likely. I know human beings copy other human beings. That is a fact. Neither you nor I have experienced these archetypes, so cannot be sure that they even exist.


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