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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Anno]
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Anno said:
And your solution is to make the smart idiots moderators?


You know as well as I do that idiots would not become moderators. People like Diploid, Skorpivo, Paradigm, HELLA, etc. would be nominated. Popular people that are smart and funny.

There is no doubt in my mind that those who would be elected would be quality. I feel there is another reason you're against this, and it is not one concerning the community's best interest.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Anno]
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And your solution is to make the smart idiots moderators?

If everyone's an idiot, then the smart idiots are the creme of the crop. Right now, instead of the creme running things, we have an arbitrary selection of good 'ol boys in power.

It shouldn't be surprising that there is friction.

Natural selection works wonders in the real world. It would do so here too if the admins have the vision to see this.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Anno]
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Same shit different year.

Totalitarian rule might work well on disney.com forums, but it will never fly smoothly on a site/forum dedicated to a psychedelic mind expanding drug.

Not without alienating the intelligent users, or at least forcing them to bridle their speech to conform to the tyranny.

It boggles my mind that you like to say that this is a "dictatorship".

With that attitude you will get the same results as other dictatorships get. Namely discord, uprisings, bickering, and revolutions. (Lots of threads like these)

Then you just label and ban the "troublemakers" because of their protesting. (unfair)

I can't believe you said "dictatorship".

Square peg, round hole my friend.

Have elections man, it's for mods, not admins.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
That's the way it worked in the beginning... mods got elected.. it didn't work. It's just a popularity contest.



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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: gdman]
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As it should be. There is no place for the unpopular to be ruling over the masses making unpopular decisions. Like wiping your ass before you shit; doesn't make sense.

If you're all scared of losing your modship, that should tell you something.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: gdman]
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Well how about mods and admins can vote them IN, and reserve the right of the membership to vote them OUT.

How's that for a compromise?

A community always suffers when they are ruled by someone they cant stand, but can do nothing to remove.

Look at America.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Or let the membership nominate, and the admins select from there. That's the best of both worlds.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: daimyo]
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Why not let the community participate in it's own moderating anyway?

Ideally an enlightened community would be virtually self moderating.

Selecting its' own moderators is at least a step in that direction. Dictatorship is a step in NO direction, for ANY community.

Eventually the admin here will discover this.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: gdman]
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acording to your reg date, you weren't even here in the beginning. let me guess, you lurked for years.


i hope nobody's suprised that the current mods are opposing this idea. it's because they're afraid of losing their modship of course.

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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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The worst ones will object the loudest


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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I was voted in. Back when we did that.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Shroomism]
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Congratulations. Then why do you oppose the idea?

I would vote for a mod that supported the idea of mod elections.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Microcosmatrix said:
Ideally an enlightened community would be virtually self moderating.



There are a significant amount of people on here who don't act terribly "enlightened".

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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Mod Elections would become a popularity contest and that would not be conducive to the overall health of the Shroomery. Also, what if prospective mods bribed people for votes? What if people made a bunch of puppets to skew the voting? It all seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: RandalFlagg]
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O.K., well we AT THE VERY LEAST desperately need an impeachment process.


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Who do you want to impeach?

You know what's funny? A lot of the mods I talk to really don't like being mods too much. It's a big hassle for a lot of them.

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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said:
Microcosmatrix said:
Ideally an enlightened community would be virtually self moderating.



There are a significant amount of people on here who don't act terribly "enlightened".


And they are given an enviornment in which they can thrive

What would it hurt to allow them to choose their own moderators as well?

The admins still hold all the keys. Let's try it again! If it doesn't work then fine they can change it back just as easy. :shrug:


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said:
Who do you want to impeach?

You know what's funny?  A lot of the mods I talk to really don't like being mods too much.  It's a big hassle for a lot of them.


Me personally? No-one at all.

I have never even run into leary_fan on the boards at all. But it's causing a tremendous amount of commotion that seems to be comprised of a significant amount of members. A process should be in place, and the membership should not be forced to endure a mod that they would vote out if only there were a process in place.

That's all I'm trying to say.  :thumbup:


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Re: Mod Elections, A Proposal [Re: Learyfan]
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Learyfan said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Glad to meet you. hear you've been having some troubles. Shame. Nice title btw  :thumbup:


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