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Do you recomend?
    #5329151 - 02/22/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am new here and am interested in growing my own 'shrooms. I ran past a site, as I was looking for one like this. This site featured "growing kits" and I was wondering if it easier to grow them in such a contraption. The less I have to do manually(as not to mess stuff up)the better at this point while I am wet behind the ears. Can someone recommend the most proficient one please? I know you all have this question a million times a day. Sorry for my ignorance.
Another thing is, I don't know where the majority of you all are located, but I'm in the states, Mid-West at that.I have seen a couple of sites stating to order this or that type of spore. My question is, are they illegal to be sold here;if not which are the best to buy and do they deliver?

Thank you for taking the time to read my inexperienced ponders.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329156 - 02/22/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

do the noob PF TEK search for it on here

nvm
here http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23593/pag/1

follow every instruction carefully and
keep extra,extra,extra clean never can be tooooo clean surfaces air whatever


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: mrTtheH]
    #5329165 - 02/22/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Do not buy a kit. It's way cheaper to do it all yourself, and if you're willing to put in a little time/effort, it's way more rewarding. Spores are completely legal to be sold in the US, except to GA, CA, and like.. illinois or idaho or iowa, I don't know which one, they all tend to blend together in my mind.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329227 - 02/22/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That's messed up Im in chicago...


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329248 - 02/22/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You're straight then. I just checked, the I-state I couldn't remember was Idaho, not Illinois. So you can order spores w/o perfectly legally.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329252 - 02/22/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I dont have a lot of time is just the thing. I would love to become an expert but at this point time just does not allow. On mushbox.com they advertise this kit which includes:
? 2 - 66 quart containers that double as incubator
? 1 - 100 watt fully submersible heater
? 1 - Humidity and air exchange device
? 1 - 22 quart bag of perlite
and
? 1 - Grow box with dome lid
? 1 - Bag of straw substrate
? 1 - Clear plastic mixing bag
? 1 - Bag of casing soil mixture
? 1 - Vial of casing starter
? 1 - Spray bottle & watering cap
? 1 - Half gallon rye grain jar
? 1 - Copy of detailed instructions
for like 300 dollars and some other freebies. My question is how are things like this in comparison to an unexperienced grower?


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329262 - 02/22/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well for around 50 bucks you could get everything you need for the pf tek. At least by my calculations, so if you want a 300 dollar kit just mail me 300 bucks and ill get you everything you need


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329265 - 02/22/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

cool^^


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329266 - 02/22/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No dude, no. Everything you need for quick, easy grows can be gathered from walmart and/or lowes for way cheaper. Spend maybe 2-3 days reading stuff here off and on, you'll see how cheap and easy it is.

::EDIT:: well okay, i'm late, but same idea. It's way easy man. No need to waste the dough on a kit.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329278 - 02/22/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

TIme is of the essence, Im going in on this with my boss, he wants to relive his glory days so it all works out.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329295 - 02/22/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well it'll take a week or so for your spores to get there after ordering. In that time you can do all the research you need and be ready to tackle the project with $250 more than you'd have if you bought the kit.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329300 - 02/22/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

He is paying for the majority of it so it's not a big deal, if we get caught I just have to take the blame. I want something that is simple like microwave food: put it in take it out, that simple.
I know it's not going to happen but...


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329314 - 02/22/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I also need to knowe whicj type of spores to buy and who gots the best. I also heard that you can make them without spores; is that true?


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329324 - 02/22/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well dude, you've had my 2 cents. If you don't mind paying the insanely over the top cost, and this is only going to be a one time venture, out of which you don't expect that great of a yield, then the kit is for you. But I mean, you can simulate everything that kit does for way cheaper. But it's totally up to you.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329331 - 02/22/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Spores are the starting source. Unless you know someone with some liquid cultures of mycelium, you need to start at the spores.

Any of the shroomery vendors offer safe, sterile spores. I'm partial to ralphstersspores.com myself.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329338 - 02/22/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

no actualy its more for thef long term but I just dont want to be contaminating things. I guess the word "kit" just sounds safe.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329342 - 02/22/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Any of the sponsors here sell wicked spores sent FAST.

If TIME is more important than SIMPLICITY, search WBS, learn all you can, and case it straight.

If SIMPLICITY is more important than TIME, search PF tek, learn all you can, and wait.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329353 - 02/22/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

which are the "best" or easiest to not mess up?


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329394 - 02/22/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The best would be dealing with bulk substrates like poo or compost, as they will offer the best yield and the most potent mushies.

The easiest is really a matter of opinion. I personally think it'd be rather easy to get some filtered spawn bags, some horse poo, and some wbs. Make a couple of Liquid Cultures with water and 4% light karo. Make some bags with a mix of grains and poo/compost, and inoculate with the liquid culture. When those bags are colonized, just stick them in a double/mono tub, then case and fruit. You'll get a NICE yield doing that, with minimum effort. You could make it even easier by buying the horse poo from tenn stud rather than collecting your own.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329397 - 02/22/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I can be patient; moneys not that big an issue;and I have a lot of space perhaps a whole room I can devote to this so I guess really Im tryng to produce (beginner) quality and deffinatly a little bit of quantity. The "kit" looke big and like I cvould produce an abundance.


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