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Do you recomend?
    #5329151 - 02/22/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am new here and am interested in growing my own 'shrooms. I ran past a site, as I was looking for one like this. This site featured "growing kits" and I was wondering if it easier to grow them in such a contraption. The less I have to do manually(as not to mess stuff up)the better at this point while I am wet behind the ears. Can someone recommend the most proficient one please? I know you all have this question a million times a day. Sorry for my ignorance.
Another thing is, I don't know where the majority of you all are located, but I'm in the states, Mid-West at that.I have seen a couple of sites stating to order this or that type of spore. My question is, are they illegal to be sold here;if not which are the best to buy and do they deliver?

Thank you for taking the time to read my inexperienced ponders.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329156 - 02/22/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

do the noob PF TEK search for it on here

nvm
here http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23593/pag/1

follow every instruction carefully and
keep extra,extra,extra clean never can be tooooo clean surfaces air whatever


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: mrTtheH]
    #5329165 - 02/22/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Do not buy a kit. It's way cheaper to do it all yourself, and if you're willing to put in a little time/effort, it's way more rewarding. Spores are completely legal to be sold in the US, except to GA, CA, and like.. illinois or idaho or iowa, I don't know which one, they all tend to blend together in my mind.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329227 - 02/22/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That's messed up Im in chicago...


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329248 - 02/22/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You're straight then. I just checked, the I-state I couldn't remember was Idaho, not Illinois. So you can order spores w/o perfectly legally.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329252 - 02/22/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I dont have a lot of time is just the thing. I would love to become an expert but at this point time just does not allow. On mushbox.com they advertise this kit which includes:
? 2 - 66 quart containers that double as incubator
? 1 - 100 watt fully submersible heater
? 1 - Humidity and air exchange device
? 1 - 22 quart bag of perlite
and
? 1 - Grow box with dome lid
? 1 - Bag of straw substrate
? 1 - Clear plastic mixing bag
? 1 - Bag of casing soil mixture
? 1 - Vial of casing starter
? 1 - Spray bottle & watering cap
? 1 - Half gallon rye grain jar
? 1 - Copy of detailed instructions
for like 300 dollars and some other freebies. My question is how are things like this in comparison to an unexperienced grower?


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329262 - 02/22/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well for around 50 bucks you could get everything you need for the pf tek. At least by my calculations, so if you want a 300 dollar kit just mail me 300 bucks and ill get you everything you need


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329265 - 02/22/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

cool^^


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329266 - 02/22/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No dude, no. Everything you need for quick, easy grows can be gathered from walmart and/or lowes for way cheaper. Spend maybe 2-3 days reading stuff here off and on, you'll see how cheap and easy it is.

::EDIT:: well okay, i'm late, but same idea. It's way easy man. No need to waste the dough on a kit.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329278 - 02/22/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

TIme is of the essence, Im going in on this with my boss, he wants to relive his glory days so it all works out.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329295 - 02/22/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well it'll take a week or so for your spores to get there after ordering. In that time you can do all the research you need and be ready to tackle the project with $250 more than you'd have if you bought the kit.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329300 - 02/22/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

He is paying for the majority of it so it's not a big deal, if we get caught I just have to take the blame. I want something that is simple like microwave food: put it in take it out, that simple.
I know it's not going to happen but...


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329314 - 02/22/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I also need to knowe whicj type of spores to buy and who gots the best. I also heard that you can make them without spores; is that true?


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329324 - 02/22/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well dude, you've had my 2 cents. If you don't mind paying the insanely over the top cost, and this is only going to be a one time venture, out of which you don't expect that great of a yield, then the kit is for you. But I mean, you can simulate everything that kit does for way cheaper. But it's totally up to you.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329331 - 02/22/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Spores are the starting source. Unless you know someone with some liquid cultures of mycelium, you need to start at the spores.

Any of the shroomery vendors offer safe, sterile spores. I'm partial to ralphstersspores.com myself.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329338 - 02/22/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

no actualy its more for thef long term but I just dont want to be contaminating things. I guess the word "kit" just sounds safe.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329342 - 02/22/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Any of the sponsors here sell wicked spores sent FAST.

If TIME is more important than SIMPLICITY, search WBS, learn all you can, and case it straight.

If SIMPLICITY is more important than TIME, search PF tek, learn all you can, and wait.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329353 - 02/22/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

which are the "best" or easiest to not mess up?


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329394 - 02/22/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The best would be dealing with bulk substrates like poo or compost, as they will offer the best yield and the most potent mushies.

The easiest is really a matter of opinion. I personally think it'd be rather easy to get some filtered spawn bags, some horse poo, and some wbs. Make a couple of Liquid Cultures with water and 4% light karo. Make some bags with a mix of grains and poo/compost, and inoculate with the liquid culture. When those bags are colonized, just stick them in a double/mono tub, then case and fruit. You'll get a NICE yield doing that, with minimum effort. You could make it even easier by buying the horse poo from tenn stud rather than collecting your own.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329397 - 02/22/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I can be patient; moneys not that big an issue;and I have a lot of space perhaps a whole room I can devote to this so I guess really Im tryng to produce (beginner) quality and deffinatly a little bit of quantity. The "kit" looke big and like I cvould produce an abundance.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329408 - 02/22/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The best is h/poo. The simplest is cased WBS with a pressure cooker, BRF cakes without a PC.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329417 - 02/22/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

all that is greek to me right now. I know I need to read up. I was thinking of an active process. I buy all the stuff and then "go" and see how the first ones turn out. You know just feel everything out. Ilnow thats bull headed but thats how I learn.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329435 - 02/22/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well dude, it's really your decision. You've heard my opinion, but you still seem hellbent on the kit. It's your grow op, your choice. I'm sure the kit will work to an extent. I can't tell you how well, or whether it's worth your time/money. It's really up to you.

To tell you the truth, I am slightly annoyed that you ask my opinion, I take the time to write out what would be your best option, then you continue to mention a kit, which several people have advised you don't use. If you want to use the kit, go for it, more power to you, but I'm getting bored of this rather quickly, I've told you what I think, period.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329473 - 02/22/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I just think tiny_bird's just feeling frustrated. We've all put in HOURS/DAYS/WEEKS of reading and practice into this. I looked like this before I even attempted a grow ----->
Just absorb all the info you can before you jump in the deep end of the pool. There is a whole universe of info here, and 99.9% of the questions you can even think of have been asked and answered many times. Learn to use the search function at the top of the page. It will be your best friend. It's still mine. Good luck. :wink:


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329476 - 02/22/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No no Sun, don't be offended, I was just wanting to know... in comparison. I beleive your way is better I just didnt want to ask someone to like write out everything I need. That's a little demanding. With the "kit" it just seemed like pay and its at your doorstep. If some one was willling to help me make my own monster, I would be more than grateful. I didn't think anyone would want to get that involved in my cause.I also didn't want anyone to think that I'm trying to "steal" his or her master setup or teks. Some people can get realy weird about that type of stuff.
Dont mean to offend.

I really appreciate all this feedback.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329495 - 02/22/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Can I find information on everything I will ever need to make a considerable amount of la magia in the FAQs? I'm looking I guess for a list. I would like to gather all that stuff whilst I wait on the spores. Then read up on the material in the mean time as well.

I guess I am overeager as well, I'm sure you all remember it well. I apologise.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329544 - 02/22/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If someone isreally bored, could they post an evrything I need list? If it is already in the faqs then smack me and call me stupid.
off to la la land for me but I will check this post tomorrow.
Thank you all for your help.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329737 - 02/22/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329852 - 02/22/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

For the following, you'll need a Liquid Culture [LC] to act as an inoculant. The easiest way to make an LC:

First take any regular jar and drill two small holes, then put a blob of silicone sealant over both holes. Now make a mixture of 4% karo, honey, or malt extract from a homebrew store and warm water. Drop a marble in the jar, then put the lid on and pressure cook [PC] for 20 minutes. Then knock it up with a couple CCs of spore solution. Let it sit for two weeks until you get a good bit of white fluffy growth. At which time you can take a sterile syringe and suck up some of that solution, and voila, you've got your LC syringe.

This is the tek I was talking about earlier, write-up courtesy of Wronguy, who based it off of Blue Helix's tek.

48 Cups of horse manure (shredded)
24 Cups of vermiculite
16 1/2 Cups of dry Wild Bird Seed [WBS] (do not soak or simmer)
4 Tablespoons of dry Kelp Meal
6 Tablespoons of Canola or Vegetable oil
21 Cups of water
spawn bags

Thoroughly mix all dry ingredients together. Now, add the water and mix again. Due to the human error factor on measurements, you may consider adding only 18 cups of water to begin with and adjust it from there. However, I have found that any measurements that are off are negligible in the moisture content.

After all the water is added, test your moisture content by giving the substrate a hard squeeze. You should only be able to extract a few drops from this, not a steady drip. If you find that your substrate is a little too wet, slowly add vermiculite until you get the right consistency. If you measure everything correctly this should not be necessary. The moisture content needs to be slightly dryer than normal to allow for the liquid culture you will inject later.

The final step is adding the oil. I prefer to add the oil in after the water has been added. I find it's much easier to mix in and doesn't stick to the substrate in one area or clump. Mixing the oil in with the dry ingredients will surely clump on you.

Load your spawn bags at the same time and make sure they are as even as possible. Now it does not matter where you mix this. I do mine in my garage. I know I'm going to sterilize the substrate so contaminates are less of a concern. Follow the tek by Blue Helix to complete it. I personally PC for 3 1/2 hours at 15 PSI.

At this point, follow Wronguy's double tub pictorial, or you modify it into a mono-tub by simply using one tall tub.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5329910 - 02/22/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Supplies

TiT Incubator
(this is optional, you can get by w/o an incubator if your room temp is 75 )
Two storage tubs
Cheap water heater from walmart
some wire or plastic ties to keep the second tub from floating.

Mono tub
Spawn bags filled with the ingredients mentioned in my last post
1 or more storage tubs (just like the TiT ones), depending on how many monotubs you want going
Polyfil (sinthetic stuffing in pillows/stuffed animals you can get from walmart)
Black trash bag
Maybe some duct tape
Maybe some aluminum foil

Okay, that's pretty much all the supplies you'd need. Initial investment might put you somewhere around 150 bucks for a system that will over several harvests literally get you pounds of dried mushrooms. That is a LOT when you consider a single dose off of poo shrooms will be no more than 4 grams, but probably closer to 2.

This really isn't that much work, but it may look like it. Take my word for it though, it really isn't that difficult at all. And if/when you complete your first grow, you will be glad you did this. Anyways, sorry if I came off as a dick earlier, I was starting to get a headache and a bit pissy. Good luck w/ your grows.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5329955 - 02/22/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

if your serious about growing skip the pf tek you will just waste your time and money. get a pc and do magash's rye tek.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: onetime]
    #5330234 - 02/23/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

take it from somebody who bought a kit. kits suck. i would recomend pf tek if it is your first time. you could manage what these other guys are talking about but you are open to more chances of failure. so i say use pf tek then once you understand that then move on. my kit gave me no more then an eigth, pf tek gave and eigth or better per cake. but bulk is the way to go. i'm just getting ready to dive into bulk my self. i have done 2 quarts cased WBS before. now i'm ready for bulk WBS or Rye grain spawned to horse poo


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: Mycophreek423]
    #5331028 - 02/23/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Mycophreek:Yeah I am looking to move to bulk rather quickly once I understand the basics. What will it take to pump out lets say 5 ounces at a time? Is this task daunting or impossible? Also when you buy spores from a distributor lets say 1 syringe or 1 print how much will each produce granted you dont fuck up?

I'm back at work and my boss seems to hell bent on "the kit" I will try to talk him out of it and see if we cant do everything manually. He is the donator though.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5331432 - 02/23/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hey man, just FYI I tried starting with a kit a few years back with a friend... it contaminated pretty quick. We didnt know what we were doing so we through out the money on another "kit", we got maybe a 1/4oz dry weight, certainly not worth the money.

Then I found shroomery a few years back. I read, probably every thread that came up, and how-to and every faq on this site. Took me a few months. Then I finally started off on my own, I went strait to bulk because I had the confidence and knowledge this place can give.

It was worth the time and effort, and even doing bulk grows I speant MUCH less then I did on either of the kits.

All I am saying is tell your boss to have some patience, read for a few weeks, and then begin. If you are in a hurry now, you are going to end up not learning anything, and with a yield far less than any beginner really expects.

It isnt really difficult, you just have to know what you are doing. After reading a bit you will notice who on here really knows thier shit. Follow thier threads as much as possible, and listen to thier advice. The pictures of some of thier yields speak for themselves.

BTW, I think the first problem is him seeing this kit as "automatic" and doing it the way on here as "manually". Its going to be the same steps pretty much, you are just paying 3X as much for what you need that can all be bought at 1 or 2 different stores, and then re-used indefinitely.

Think of this more along the lines of picking up a new hobby, instead of just growing some shrooms for a trip. Many people on here know what I mean, once you start, you just cant stop. Eventually the grow is more important to you than the shrooms anyways.

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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: dedjam]
    #5331533 - 02/23/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I bought a kit here in my town at a local head shop for $130  and got less than an ounce of dry... I found this site and ordered two spore syringes and all other supplies here in town for less than a hundred bucks and so far have 7 quart size jars fully colonized and one LC jar and still have enough spores to do 14 more quart size jars and thats not including what I will get from my LC!
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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: Rickster]
    #5331643 - 02/23/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Gopenguins and Rickster, thank you for your opinions. I have an idea, can someone check out this kit on mushbox.com it is called "The Self-Auto System combined with the MYG Kit" for $325.99 + shipping. Can someone critque this kit and tell me the skinny? I will let him read your post and then he would be able to see that it is not in fact better.

We are realisticly looking to produce 2 ounces a run how can we pull this off. He says that this mushbox "the kit" looks lik there is enough space to do so.(likes to put "the kit" in quotes, sounds funny).


THANK YOU


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: achoo]
    #5331701 - 02/23/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

2 - 66 quart containers that double as incubator +
- ----grow chamber providing indefinite harvests
$5-$15 a piece
? 1 - 100 watt fully submersible heater
$20-$40 at a pet shop
? 1 - Humidity and air exchange device
$15-$35 also at the pet shop
? 1 - 22 quart bag of perlite
I got an 8 quart bar for $3 you can get just about all of this at walmart
1 - Complete MYG Mushroom Growing Kit
Follow a tec on this site for less than $50 of cost for tec supplies (e.x. brown rice flower $4 for 2lb, and spores at sporeworks.com for 17 dollars a syringe)

With a little ingenuity you can have it built in no time!
There are several tecs on this site to build your own (BETTER) chamber!


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    #5331711 - 02/23/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Prices may vary, also you may need to buy other small supplies like silicone and hoses but I think you should follow a tec or use your imagination on this, make it your own! just follow basic necessities for a chamber and go!


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    #5331722 - 02/23/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Mushrooms take time no mater how you go on this, a kit can take weeks to order, you could have everything done by the time it arrives!


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    #5331742 - 02/23/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sporworks.com has two day delivery cheap! thats where I got 2 syringes and two day delivery $40! I went with golden teachers and amazonians they are always having sales!


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    #5331820 - 02/23/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Rickster, learn to use the Edit feature. What you're doing right there is called post-whoring and leads to cluttered threads. I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, but just advising you for future reference.

And achoo, I'm telling you man, if you followed the tek I showed you word for word, you will have more mushrooms than you know what to do with, for maybe $150. Another guy on the forum tried his first monotub, which actually wasn't as successful as he was wanting, but still got a quarter pound from it... A q-lb from an unsuccessful first flush (that's not including the subsequent flushes) And that was only one tub. Is that not enticing? It's enough to last you and several friends many many trips. The teks are all written out so that anyone can understand them, once you get the basic knowledge that a couple of day's worth of reading will give you. I really advise you just forget about kits, and forget about the PF tek, as they will leave you with pitiful yields and fruits lacking potency.

That spawn bag tek is really just like doing giant cakes. You get all the ingredients, mix them together, put them in the container, sterilize them, then knock it up and let it colonize. Once it's fully colonized, you put it into the mono tub, case it, and basically forget about it. I dunno, it seems very doable for anybody willing to read and follow the instructions. But anyways, I'm done trying to convince you. Good luck w/ whatever route you choose.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5332064 - 02/23/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Im already convinced and have been for a while. Thank you for your help. I will try it that way this guy hopefully will be up for it too.


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    #5332416 - 02/23/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The PF Tek is easy and cheap.
Jars, Vermiculite, flour, perlite, spores, and a $5 opaque tub from Walmart is all you should have to buy. Anything else that's required should be found in almost any household (hammer, nails, foil, etc...)
Mix the jars, boil 'em in a pot, knock 'em up, stick 'em in a box, and put 'em someplace warm like above a water heater or wrapped in a blanket in the top of a fairly warm closet.
When they're colonised, turn the walmart tub into a simple fruiting chamber, fan a few times a day, then harvest the flushes.

You seem to have an idea that some kit will fully automate the growing process and allow you to grow huge crops of shrooms without any knowledge or work. More likely is that you will end up with a bumper crop of mold and bacteria as most kits are only designed to look good enough to get some dumb sucker to drop $300+ on them. Their actual ability to produce a productive shroom grow is almost always far below that of some Walmart tubs and Bell jars or some bird seed, poo, and a few cake pans.

Kit or not, there's no way around it, you will HAVE to find the time to do a bit of learning. At least read through the basic cutivation teks, the cultivation FAQs, and the Cakes and/or Casings section of the cultivation archive.
If you don't have the time to do that little bit of work you're not going to have the time to do the things necessary to get a harvest whether you use a kit or not. If you can't spare the time to learn some basics you really should just give up the idea of growing until you have more time to spare in learning how to do it safely and properly.

Mushroom growing can be easy, but it's not really simple. It's not like growing plants where you can drop a seed in a hole in the ground and come back in 8 months to harvest a fully grown plant. It takes some knowledge and a bit of work no matter what tek or equipment you use.


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: Ecwfrk]
    #5332759 - 02/23/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ecwfrk I know I havde to have knowledge; I dont expect stuff to pop up on its own he just figures the less we have to touch it the less chance for contam. I would like a really good book on the subject. My computer is broken at my home and my boss dosent have one. I think the do it yourself thing is very interesting.


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    #5332783 - 02/23/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Paul Stamets wrote the book on mushroom cultivation. Literally. Look him up.


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    #5332850 - 02/23/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thx


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Re: Do you recomend? [Re: Rickster]
    #5377506 - 03/08/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

regarding the MYG kit.. there is tons of pics here is a few showing some good results - also again with buying your own supplies and such remember the MYG kit from mushbox comes with a guarantee, if it doesn't work you get a 2nd one free, just pay the shipping cost.

If your homemade kit doesn't work you can only blame yourself.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a110/limbless/Organic/P1010176.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a110/limbless/Organic/P1010175.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a110/limbless/Organic/P1010174.jpg

http://www.shroomgallery.com/photo/albums/userpics/mushbox-treasure.jpg

http://www.shroomgallery.com/photo/albums/userpics/MYG-classic3.jpg

http://www.shroomgallery.com/photo/albums/userpics/MYG-classic4.jpg

and regarding spore sales.. sporeworks is good but right now spores101 has a 5 for 50 deal goin.. thats less than 10$ a syringe. + all shroomery members get 5$ off , enter code shroomery when ordering and you will be happy.


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