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its not sad and it wasnt lost i woudl bet money that by making it say through Jesus the church became alot more important in peoples lives. How could they control the populace when everything a man needs for salvation he already has...


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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I believe that the esoteric understanding of 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; nobody comes to the Father but through me,' refers to The Logos, which suffuses all of creation and is the moment-to-moment Source of creation, including the True Self. Unfortunately, the use of the word 'Self' is too often confused with the meaning of 'ego' - the psychological sense of individuality - the yogic 'ahamkara.' The Logos is the 'Immanence' of God (vs. God's 'Transcendence' - the Father). Thus, one must first identify with the Logos before one is spiritually capable of complete transcendence. The Logos (the 'mind of Christ,' i.e., Christ Consiousness) is known through the continuous 'crucifixion' of one's ego/self, which results in humility.

"Know the personal,
yet keep to the impersonal:
accept the world as it is.
If you accept the world,
the Tao [Way] will be luminous inside you
and you will return to your primal self."

From The Book of the Immanence of the Way AKA Tao Te Ching
28th Aphorism


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: dorkus]
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dr_mandelbrot said:
What is salvation?

Are we living dead until born saved?

Why is it sad?



the christ consciousness is salvation.

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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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May you go into more depth on what exactly continuous 'crucifixion' of one's ego/self is?

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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: spud]
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The same idea expressed in Tibetan Buddhist deity images like Mahakala, waving the sword of discrimination which cuts at the roots of delusion. Crucifixion of the ego is reading the symbolic meaning of the Christ's execution: suspended on the cross of existence - between Heaven and Earth, between the Good [thief] and the Evil [thief], between Life and Death, etc. In other words, to live in Christ is to live in a Conjunctio Oppositorum - a Union of Opposites (crucifixion paintings often interpret the 'darkness' at Christ's death as a solar eclipse - Sun and Moon being THE expression of the Conjunctio. That would be to live in the colorless Spirit beteen darkness and light, pleasure and pain. The individual perspective, the 'ego' identifies itself with the opposites and is about minimizing one (say, pain) and maximizing the other (pleasure). The preoccupation of such moment-to-moment pursuit is what selfishness consists in, so its opposite - selflessness - consists in cutting at the roots of selfish desire. Selflessness is humility, it is 'kenosis' - self-emptying. It is the killing of self on the cross of the opposites. Existence yeilds to Essence.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: Gomp]
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Christ is not something outside of oneself which one must worship and obey. Rather, it is a potential within all of us. I often spend several minutes each day in meditative prayer, trying to cultivate the Christ mind.


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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: Silversoul]
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:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: Gomp]
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Christ consciousness is hope and appreciation with the phenomena that we are here at all



Patty Smith = Christ Consciousness = Patty Smith


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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: spud]
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spud said:
May you go into more depth on what exactly continuous 'crucifixion' of one's ego/self is?



Its about living for others.

Quote:
No one has greater love than this, to lay down one's life for one's friends.
You are my friends if you do what I command you.
I no longer call you slaves, because a slave does not know what his master is doing. I have called you friends, because I have told you everything I have heard from my Father.
It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you.
This I command you: love one another.




(John 15: 13-17)
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/john/john15.htm

To have Christ consciousness is to be the friend of Christ by imitating his love for others.

The ego is crucified in obedience to Truth/Christ (I am the Way the Truth and the Life). But Obedience to Truth does not render one a slave, it makes him a friend of truth, and the truth will set you free.

Edited by shroomydan (01/21/06 10:18 PM)

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Re: Christ Consciousness [Re: Gomp]
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Through him, be like him. How is it different. Be Jesus WWJD, etc.
Mass religion is Chakra control if you think about it. The spectrum of our being torn and categorized.
Thus I embrace a balance of all healthy religions and attune into whatever the earth says to feel like. Christ, Nature, Humanity are all my religions.


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blaze2 said:
its not sad and it wasnt lost i woudl bet money that by making it say through Jesus the church became alot more important in peoples lives. How could they control the populace when everything a man needs for salvation he already has...




It always seemed obvious to me that nobody could judge oneself so well as themself. No judgement could be so damning as self judgement. So also forgiveness. If you forgive then you have the whole teaching in yourself. All I met of Jesus himself is the Apocalypse. Otherwise not there at all for me. I think he was teaching something different from the Bible. Like true gnosis including the Sophia and Body is Temple and so on.... That is all apocrypha....


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