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South America warming your heart
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After so many nightmarish big business backed "free market" dictatorships in South America how truly fucking marvellous to see people like Chavez and Morales gaining power.

When he is sworn in as the president of Bolivia at a ceremony in La Paz on January 22, he will become a unique figure - an indigenous Indian, pro-coca leaf-farming president of a Latin American nation.

His arrival in power also looks set, at the start of a crucial season of elections across his continent, to broaden the anti-Washington coalition based around Cuba's Castro and Venezuela's Chavez.

Starting the European leg of his tour in Madrid last week, Morales was quietly confident but admitted he had much to learn.

"I never in my life thought I would be moving in these circles," he said before taking his striped jersey to dinner with King Juan Carlos of Spain. "I still cannot believe that Evo Morales will be president."

Morales' smooth skin and dark, indigenous features will make him a rare beast at the next annual meeting of South American heads of state - a recognisable descendant of the peoples who inhabited the continent before Spanish and Portuguese conquistadores arrived five centuries ago.

He was voted into power, with a clear absolute majority, last month after weeks of social unrest amongst the indigenous people who are a majority in Bolivia but have never held power in one of the region's poorest countries.

"We want to end social injustice," he explained after meeting the Spanish socialist prime minister, Jos? Luis Rodr?guez Zapatero, who had just written off a large chunk of Bolivia's debt. "If we do not solve the indigenous problem, then we will solve nothing."

That would mean protecting small indigenous farmers against competition from big companies, he added.

Morales, more commonly known as Evo, is the great hope for those who decry the huge gaps in wealth in Latin America and the historic mistreatment of its native peoples.

One of seven children born to a family of poor farmers in the Oruro region, he has been a union activist for the past quarter of a century and is a former president of the Federation of Coca Leaf Growers.

His defence of traditional small farmers who cultivate the coca leaf - not for turning into cocaine, but for local use in other, less harmful forms - makes him unpopular in some places, especially Washington.

"I cultivate coca leaf, which is a natural product," he once told journalists. "I do not refine cocaine. Neither cocaine nor drugs have ever been part of the Andean culture."

"My government will exercise its property right over its natural resources," he added. "We will nationalise, but that does not mean confiscate, expropriate or expel."

He has warned foreign firms that they may have to renegotiate contracts, something analysts say has already led to an investment slowdown.

The question now is will Morales spark what might be called an "Evo effect"? His desire, he has said, is "not just a change in the history of Bolivia, but of Latin America".

Candidates lining up for presidential elections to be held this year in Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Brazil, Chile, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Venezuela will all be watching to see whether Morales's popularity spills over his borders.

Washington is treading delicately around a man it has previously attacked for defending coca leaf farming.

It will want to see whether Morales turns out to be a populist like Chavez or a leftwing pragmatist such as Brazil's Luiz In?cio Lula da Silva.

"Any effort by the US to make it difficult for Morales to govern at the outset would make him into a martyr in most of Latin America," Peter Hakim, the president of Washington's Interamerican Dialogue thinktank, told Reuters this week.

A first sign that the "Evo effect" was being felt elsewhere could be a sudden show of jersey-wearing by the continent's politicians. "That is something Evo will never give up," said the football coach Ovidio Messa, one of his entourage in Madrid.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1684159,00.html

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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: Alex213]
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I'm just waiting for Washington to start overthrowing S. American governments again, saying that these men support terrorism.

Cold War South America Part II

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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: Alex213]
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Marvellous :rolleyes:  Maybe it will spread to Mexico and they will build a big soviet style fence to keep their people from coming here. :thumbup:


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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
Marvellous :rolleyes:  Maybe it will spread to Mexico and they will build a big soviet style fence to keep their people from coming here. :thumbup:



Nice dream.  Not likely however.  See this latest from wetbackland;

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/10/D8F1LRCO5.html

"Mexico Demands U.S. Allow More Immigration
Jan 10 2:09 AM US/Eastern
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By MARK STEVENSON
Associated Press Writer

MEXICO CITY

Diplomats from Mexico and Central America on Monday demanded guest worker programs and the legalization of undocumented migrants in the United States, while criticizing a U.S. proposal for tougher border enforcement.

Demanded.  DEMANDED!  Who are these assholes to demand anything? And WHY are they putting their filthy feet down?  Let me steal a paragraph from further down.  "Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second largest source of foreign currency after oil exports according to the country's central bank."  You gotta love 'em just for their pure unadulterated gall.

Meeting in Mexico's capital, the regional officials pledged to do more to fight migrant trafficking, but indirectly condemned a U.S. bill that would make illegal entry a felony and extend border walls.

Interesting choice of a word, there, "migrant".  To the US they're "immigrants" (illegal or otherwise)  but to them, the gang of nitwits, they're "emigrants", as in fleeing their shithole countries.  Why don't these fucking jerkoffs stop the corruption and horrors in their own countries instead of worrying about farming out their malcontents to other nations?  I don't know.  Maybe they'll have to give up their own inflated income.  We hear so much about the difference between the wealthy and the "poor" in the US, how come no one talks about the disparity in beanerland.  Richest man in town=Chief of Police.  Give it up Vincente, you cunt.  You can't run a 7-11 so we gotta take your slurpy jockeys?

"Migrants, regardless of their migratory status, should not be treated like criminals," they said.

Huh?  Illegal immigrants are "illegal" immigrants.  The only reason they're not subject to summary deportation is because of bureaucratic incompetence.  It is not because they are entitled to remain.  They are criminals and should be treated like....wait for it....criminals.  A criminal is a person who breaks the law.  They are breaking the law.  Penalty for said crime?  We send you home.  What a fucking horror!  I have heard it posited that they should be considered trespassers.  I have also heard that in Texas trespassers is another word for range target.  Not that I think THAT'S quite right. Not quite.

The countries represented at the meeting _ including Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Belize and Panama _ created a working group to design a regional policy to avoid migrant abuse and to follow the course of the legislation.

How about the stupid fucking assholes draft a policy to avoid CITIZEN abuse so their people won't be lining up like lemmings to jump off that Rio Grande cliff and maybe make their shitholes a desirable place to live.

"There has to be an integrated reform that includes a temporary worker program, but also the regularization of those people who are already living in receptor countries," Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said.

Derbez has called the measure _ which passed the U.S. House of Representatives last month but still must go before the Senate _ "stupid and underhanded," but was somewhat more restrained on Monday, saying "it's not the Mexican government's position to tell the U.S. Senate what to do."

The U.S. proposal has caused widespread resentment in Mexico, where some have accused President Vicente Fox's administration of not being assertive enough in opposing it. Fox has called the bill shameful.

Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second largest source of foreign currency after oil exports according to the country's central bank."

Well, we can clearly see that Fox could never be called "shameful".  "Shameless" is clearly the word for that fuck.


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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: zappaisgod]
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Quote:
Smugglers planning to kill U.S. border agents, federal memo warns
Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - Federal officials have warned U.S. Border Patrol agents that they could be the targets of assassins hired by immigrant smugglers, according to a confidential memo obtained by the San Bernardino County Sun newspaper.

"Unidentified Mexican alien smugglers are angry about the increased security along the U.S./Mexico border and have agreed that the best way to deal with U.S. Border Patrol agents is to hire a group of contract killers," the Department of Homeland Security said in a Dec. 21 Officer Safety Alert.

The alert states that the smugglers intend to bring members of the Mara Salvatrucha street gang - known as MS-13 - into the country to perform the killings, The Sun reported Tuesday.

Federal officials consider MS-13, with an estimated 30,000 members in 33 states, to be one of the most dangerous gangs in the country. It was formed in Los Angeles by immigrants from El Salvador.

The safety alert was based on an FBI report. An FBI spokesman in Washington said he could not comment.

Michael Friel, a spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said he could not comment directly on the confidential memo but recalled that agents' lives have been threatened before.

"It's no surprise that these smugglers, these criminals, would be threatening our agents," Friel said. "And that would be a huge mistake on their part if they try."

On Tuesday, the agency issued a statement saying it takes seriously the risks of securing America's borders.

"Border Patrol agents and CBP officers are prepared to respond appropriately to threats either against the country or themselves," the statement said. "Border Patrol agents and CBP officers have received various types of threats in the past and have worked diligently with their law enforcement partners to address these threats ... The difficult and sometimes hazardous duty of securing our borders is CBPs first and foremost responsibility."

Border Patrol officials say assaults on agents increased significantly during the past year.

On Dec. 30, in an incident that strained U.S.-Mexico relations, an agent shot and killed an 18-year-old man who allegedly threw a large rock at him near the wall separating Tijuana and San Diego.

Last week, agents in Texas reported two separate incidents in which they were shot at from the Mexican side of the border.

T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, a 6,500-member union, said the DHS alert proves agents' lives often are at risk.

"MS-13 has shown that its members have very little regard for human life," he said. "Some of the atrocities they have committed are truly unspeakable, and it worries me to know that our agents on the line are now the targets."



http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercuryne...ia/13590574.htm

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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: zappaisgod]
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Why don't these fucking jerkoffs stop the corruption and horrors in their own countries instead of worrying about farming out their malcontents to other nations? I don't know

Remember if american business wasn't eager and willing to employ them on low wages they wouldn't be coming at all. While ever those businesses are making massive profits off illegal labour rest assured it's going to continue.

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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: zappaisgod]
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Can we start the "shoot to kill" volunteer border patrols now? Or have they already started and I'm just oblivious to current events?

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Re: South America warming your heart [Re: Alex213]
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Alex213 said:
Why don't these fucking jerkoffs stop the corruption and horrors in their own countries instead of worrying about farming out their malcontents to other nations? I don't know

Remember if american business wasn't eager and willing to employ them on low wages they wouldn't be coming at all. While ever those businesses are making massive profits off illegal labour rest assured it's going to continue.



Quite right, kind of. Given the fact that the government accepts them, against the laws of the land which they cravenly refuse to enforce, the companies have no choice but to use them. Or face extinction in a competitive marketplace. Joe landscaper hires illegals for $80 a day cash. Dick the landscaper hires legal workers for $80 a day plus 20% comp plus 8% FICA plus unemployment plus, plus plus, plus. Guess who gets jobs. It aint Dick.

Frankly, I think we should use them in such a heinous way that it would discourage them from invading. Illegally. Under cloak of darkness. Sneakily. Clandestinely. Stay home and fix your own shithole. Wimps.


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