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A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism
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This is a work-in-progress, so I'll be editing it as necessary. The main gist of this essay is this;

When America was a nation that was 90% White, I'm talking pre-WWII days here, and our media didn't encourage and support promiscuity, violence, drug abuse, alcoholism, we had almost no crime. Then, as whites went from 90% of the population to 80% and now ~75%, we have much more violent crime. The crime figures clearly show that blacks are reponsible for a VERY disproportionate amount of this violent crime. From this, we can infer that more blacks equates to more violent crime. If the non-whites were removed from the violent crime numbers, we'd have very low crime rates.

[This information comes from The Color of Crime a free download with numerous DoJ sources]

Now, given that we understand our past, lets look to the future some. I think that a few predictions can be made. Whites will become less and less of a "majority" in the United States. Blacks and Mexicans will continue to account for a large, disproportionate number of violent crimes and will continue to score low on standardized testing, thus keeping them in poverty-level status [Not that I believe this is the cause of their violence, but for those that do].

So I guess my summation question is this...

Do you think that their is anything that Whites can do to avoid this? Do you think that as blacks and mexicans become a larger percentage of our voting populace, laws will be made that are extremely beneficial to non-Whites at the cost of whites [welfare, pouring money into "inner city" schools, etc]? Do you think that the trend of "More Blacks, More Violence" will continue and get worse as whites population decreases in this country?

Just something to think about.


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
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"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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Phred ought to just merge all your fifteen threads into one about the glories of the Aryan race and how horrible niggers are.

We get it.

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: bukkake]
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I have a very hard time taking anything you say seriously. I'm fairly certain that crime was rampant in the early days of America - i.e. slaughtering the indians, rape, spousal abuse, etc - it's just that we didn't record such things as it was the norm. For you to say that we were living in basic harmony before the slave trade era is utter ridiculousness.

If you look at the Dept. of Justice website today, you'll see that violent crime among both whites and blacks has been on the decline since 1973 - http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/race.htm

Homicide Type by Race, 1976-2002 - http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Hmmmm.... So, even though blacks kill more, it's more often than not each other, and the only things that 'blacks' outweigh whites on violently are gun homicide, argument, drug related, and felony murder. Whites kill their friends, family, babies, and elderly at a higher percentage than blacks. They also commit more sex related murders. So, I'm not quite sure what you're going for - but whatever it is, it's sorely misguided and possibly retarded.

Edited by billy cuts (10/22/05 05:02 PM)

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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MagicalMystery said:
[This information comes from The Color of Crime a free download with numerous DoJ sources]


Call me crazy, but that is neither free nor contains DoJ sources (at least not from the webpage).


Either way, assuming for a minute that what you are saying is true (which ultimately we can't with the information provided), the conclusions that minorities are responsible for an increase in crime is taking two independant stastics and linking them together without truly providing a casual relationship. How do we not know that crime hasn't increased as a result of WWII, or because of tougher drug laws, or because any number of other factors. Considering the info provided on the website isn't cited, nothing can truly be drawn from it.


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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i disagree with the premise that we had almost no crime in the 1950s... i've heard today's crime rates described as 'record lows'...

I also disagree with the premise that race equals criminality... there are too many other factors influencing crime...


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MikeOLogical]
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So if we have more of the people that are currently commiting seven times the amount of crime, you somehow think thats going to not equate to more crime?


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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i think seperating people by race, and then blaming the entire race for the crimes of some, is a bad approach... if your theory held any water we would expect to see no crime at all in countries that are mostly white... last i heard, russia was full of white people, and they have an enormous crime problem, with no clear racial group to take the blame...


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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MagicalMystery said:
So if we have more of the people that are currently commiting seven times the amount of crime, you somehow think thats going to not equate to more crime?


Ha you wish the world was that simple. 'Me aryan, me like me own kind, me no like other kind, funny color, make odd music, me hear they rape me kind's women, we be much better off with no coloreds. Me friend jasper say, they shoot people because they love it, I read such things in local word picture, why life so unfair, life would be perfect with only me kind.'

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: TheCow]
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pre-WWII days here, and our media didn't encourage and support promiscuity, violence, drug abuse, alcoholism, we had almost no crime.


right, because white people never ever cheated on each other, never got into fights with each other, never used morphine, cocaine, opium.. never sold / used alcohol and had no crime before WW2?

that is quite a statement. are you also one of those holocaust-denial people?


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: kotik]
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If the amount of crime that blacks commit were removed from our crime numbers, we'd be a pretty damn safe place to live. Thats just simple fact.


I don't think that anyone denies the holocaust happened, to some degree. I might doubt some of the offical numbers, but thats not a real big issue with me honestly.


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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http://www.straightdope.com/columns/020712.html

Just because crime dipped in the 50s doesn't mean it wasn't higher before then.

Crime has DROPPED since the 90s.

It fluctuates all the time, and lo and behold, in the 30s when more white people were all poor, they comitted crimes too.

So what's your point, that crime was lower int 50s? which has what to do with race?


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: Phluck]
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Find me stats that show that rape and VIOLENT crime was as rampant during the Depression as it is in the inner cities. I'm sure that white folk in the depression were hungrier and poorer than inner city blacks, so why will blacks commit more crimes?


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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If the amount of crime that blacks commit were removed from our crime numbers, we'd be a pretty damn safe place to live. Thats just simple fact.

Well, yeah, but the blacks comitting violent crimes are mostly low income. You remove a bunch of poor people, and a bunch more come in to take their place. In the 30s, when poverty was huge, it seems that violent crime shot up, it wasn't because there were more blacks, it was because more people were as poor as the blacks.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: Phluck]
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So do you think that inner city blacks, even with such graces as welfare and food stamps and free everything, commit more or less crimes than poor whites during the Depression?


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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MagicalMystery said:
Find me stats that show that rape and VIOLENT crime was as rampant during the Depression as it is in the inner cities. I'm sure that white folk in the depression were hungrier and poorer than inner city blacks, so why will blacks commit more crimes?


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A chart of the homicide rate during the 20th century is striking. (See the fourth page of this PDF. http://www.pbs.org/fmc/book/pdf/ch12.pdf) The rate was low at the turn of the century, then rose meteorically, peaking in the early 1930s. After that it fell, reaching a low in the 50s, then climbed again. By the early 70s it was the same as in the 30s--but no worse. After the early 90s it dropped again, and today it's about the same as in the mid-60s. The murder rate doesn't exactly mirror the overall violent-crime rate, of course. Still, in some ways the 20s and 30s were as dangerous as now. In contrast, the late 40s to early 60s were a golden era, safer than most decades before or since.


Same page. I think homocide counts as a violent crime.


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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I don't know exact numbers, but I think that a black person or a white person, given the same situation, will probably react equally criminally.

Do you have any data that indicates otherwise, or are you simply making an assumption to correlate with your beliefs?


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http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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Why do you waste your time posting that garbage here? Isn't there a Nazi board you should be hanging out at. You're not fooling anyone, most of us live in a multicultural area, and see first hand that the colour of someones skin doesn't make them commit crimes, or be a good person. its just non-sense, and posting statistics doesn't make your opinion true. During prohibition what was the colour of the people doing all the illegal activity? Unless Italians are considered 'black' in your opinion. During that time Italians and Irish were the lower class immigrants, crime was very high in New york, lots of violence between the italians and irish gangs, especially at the ports.


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: MagicalMystery]
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Show me the statistics that say America was once 90% white. I cannot think of a single time in history when it was even remotely that high.


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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: Twirling]
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Twirling said:
Considering the info provided on the website isn't cited, nothing can truly be drawn from it.


Still waiting on this one. So far I don't see any basis for your arguement here except a rant without anything factual to back it up. It doesn't count when you link to a white-power website, claiming it's full of DoJ references, and that the download is free, when there are no references or free downloads to check the basis of the statistics.

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Re: A summation on blacks, crime and white nationalism [Re: Twirling]
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Exactly, the link he provides is just a list of "facts" that apparently come from some book you have to pay for. The page doesn't have any free downloads or DoJ sources.

Did he just make that up and assume we wouldn't click the link or something?


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