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new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule
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occasionally, in the heat of an argument, a poster will cite a point of fact or relate a personal experience that does not ring true... in some instances posters will pull facts right out of their asses, in order to facilitate their arguments...

with this in mind, i propose a system by which any member can dispute a given post by calling 'shenanigans'

proposed text of
THE SHENANIGANS RULE:
Within the Community forums, any member can dispute the factuality of any assertion of fact by calling 'shenanigans'. If the declaration of shenanigans is not seconded by another member, the declaration dies there and a finding of 'no shenanigans' is entered, and the disputed post is considered factual. If the declaration of shenanigans is seconded by another member, the member who originally declared shenanigans must create a poll with three options: 'shenanigans', 'no shenanigans', plus a STAL option for people who wish to abstain from the vote... if after a period of 24 hours, a two-thirds majority of members have voted 'shenanigans', then a finding of 'shenanigans' is entered and the perpetrator of the shenanigans is given a 24 hour ban from the forum in question.
If there is not a two-thirds majority vote for 'shenanigans', then a finding of 'no shenanigans' is entered, and the disputed fact may not be disputed again.

end of proposed text

this will give us a reasonable way to seperate the bullshit from real discussion, based upon the jury system...


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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I call Shenanigans on the above post/poster


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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That is honestly one of the best ideas I have ever seen since I have been on this site.

+5 just for the idea alone.

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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It would seem to me to be both inane, and illogical to propose a "vote" to determine what is true.


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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Wow, that really is a great idea.

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: TastyWaves]
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TastyWaves said:
It would seem to me to be both inane, and illogical to propose a "vote" to determine what is true.


the american jury system has used this method to determine matters of fact for over 200 years... it may not be perfect, but its better than having people throw opposing arguments back and forth at each other into perpetuity...


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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Quote:
the american jury system has used this method to determine matters of fact for over 200 years...


Based (supposedly) upon evidence. What sort of reliable evidence could possibly be asked to be presented to substantiate someone's own personal experience, as an anonymous user, on an internet website?

Plus, I wouldn't exactly use U.S. justice system any sort of a model for success anyhow, but rather is a splendid example of failure.


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Spread the love of PLUR ratings!! We shall overcome the ev0l bondage of the ratings system!!

PLUR PLUR PLUR PLUR PLUR PLUR PLUR PLUR

Join us!! Punch and pie.

Edited by TastyWaves (10/13/05 02:51 PM)

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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IMHO, good thinking, but your proposed "shenanigans" system would probably fail in accomplishing what it set out to do at best, and at worst could become a tool for abusive cliques to censor unpopular opinions and beliefs by vote.


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: TastyWaves]
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Theres a test run of the shenigans system going on right now, concerning magicalMystery's claims of getting accepted into med school... this vote will be nonbinding, since the admins have yet to sign off on this, but it will give everyone an idea of how this proposal would be put into effect...

link:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4807866#Post4807866


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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Might slow threads down quite a bit if you have to wait 24 hours for a decision every other post.


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: TastyWaves]
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The problem is, this is the internet. Who gives a shit if it's unfair?

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: Redstorm]
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:lol:


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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THE SHENANIGANS RULE:

Will this apply in the S&M forum too?

[Dip crosses fingers in hope]


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: Diploid]
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the next person that says shenanigans is gonna get pistol whipped :smile:


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: Diploid]
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That whole forum is shenanigans.

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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I vote we change the name of this website to the Shenaniganery.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I really like this rule for OTD.

Admins: Pretty please?

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: Redstorm]
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I support it. But 98% of what is said in OTD is bullshit anyway, so who cares?


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
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"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: TastyWaves]
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TastyWaves said:
It would seem to me to be both inane, and illogical to propose a "vote" to determine what is true.


:thumbup:


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: Booby]
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it's not to determine what is true, it is to determine what we, in our collective capacity, feel is bullshit...


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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Wasn't Icelander's rule something like this, a call to authenticate?


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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:cuckoo:

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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The very word "Shenanigan's" is slander against the Irish family tree with that name.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
The very word "Shenanigan's" is slander against the Irish family tree with that name.


tell us more!


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Re: new rule proposal- the shenanigans rule [Re: MikeOLogical]
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PAL would be a nightmare.


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