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shakespeare smoked cannabis???
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This is an old article I found on cnn, I don't know if it has been posted here, but I believe plants "unlock" something in your brain, opening you up to a new reality...

Do you think drugs induce "genius" or is genius an inborn genetic trait??? Still thinking about this...






Drugs clue to Shakespeare's genius

March 1, 2001
Web posted at: 11:59 AM EST (1659 GMT)

STRATFORD, England -- William Shakespeare may have relied on more than his genius to write his plays and sonnets, scientists say.

Researchers have unearthed fragments of clay pipes dating back to the 17th century near the garden of England's greatest playwright which have shown traces of cocaine and hallucinogenic drugs.
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Drugs or pure genius?


The bard would join other illustrious English literary figures if the link was proven such as Coleridge and Byron who took their inspiration from drugs.

While there is no proof Shakespeare himself took drugs, evidence suggests he and his contemporaries might have had access to narcotics.

Cannabis sativa, the plant from which marijuana is derived was available in Elizabethan England to be used for paper, rope, garments and sails.

But it had not been realised that cocaine had been around at the same time -- records have only shown it existing up to 200 years ago.

The cocaine was discovered by South African scientists in two of 24 pipe fragments examined.

Dr Francis Thackeray, a paleontologist at the Transvaal Museum in Pretoria, who co-wrote the article which appeared in the latest edition of the South African Journal of Science, said the discovery was "really quite remarkable."

"The Spanish had access to it at that time in the Americas, but the fact that it was smoked in England at that time is a first. It is quite a find."

The Shakespeare Birthplace Trust in Stratford-Upon-Avon permitted researchers to perform chemical tests on its 24 pipe fragments from its museum collection.

They included samples from Shakespeare's house at New Place in Stratford-upon-Avon, and a number of other nearby sites.

The two pipe stems which bore unexpected traces of cocaine came from the Stratford home of the mother of John Harvard, the South African scientists say. The other was thought to be from Abingdon, Oxfordshire.

Other fragments showed signs of myristic acid, a hallucinogen derived from plants such as nutmeg, and cannabis, as well as tobacco and camphor.

Thackeray added: "We do not claim that any of the pipes belonged to Shakespeare himself.

"However, we do know that some of the pipes come from the area in which he lived, and they date to the 17th century."

The scientists say their findings may lend weight to the hypothesis that "at least some of Shakespeare's texts were associated with the use or at least knowledge of the effect of certain hallucinogenic substances".

Sonnet 76, for instance, refers to a "noted weed" and "compounds strange", while in Sonnet 27, Shakespeare talks of "a journey in his head".

However literary critics have interpreted "noted weed" as meaning a well known garment or style of dress, and "compounds strange" to mean an unusual word construction or medicinal mixture.

But Ann Donnelly, curator of the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust museum, remains sceptical -- and refuses to believe the Bard may have been inspired by drugs.

She said: "People love to come up with reasons for saying Shakespeare was not a genius. I don't think there's any proof that he was helped in any way by taking narcotic substances."

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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: TheProphet]
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maybe they give you a new perspective, and allow you to be a little more creative by letting go of your inhibitions, but unlocking some secret "genius" part of the brain, I have to laugh at the concept.


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: kotik]
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maybe they give you a new perspective, and allow you to be a little more creative by letting go of your inhibitions, but unlocking some secret "genius" part of the brain, I have to laugh at the concept.


I agree with you, drugs make you more creative... but there are some profound geniuses/deep thinkers who did do drugs

Carl Sagan + Cannabis = Genius
Francis Crick + LSD = Discovered "DNA", wins nobel prize = Genius

Well, carl sagan and francis crick are very well educated, but it is foolish to think that could have changed the world without the aid of drugs...

So perhaps, drugs *can* be a lubricant to genius?

Edited by TheProphet (10/13/05 08:40 AM)

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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: TheProphet]
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TheProphet said:
Well, carl sagan and francis crick are very well educated, but it is foolish to think that could have changed the world without the aid of drugs...


:what:


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: Silversoul]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Crick

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Rumors have circulated that Crick told a colleague that he had taken small doses of the hallucinogenic drug LSD at the time of the discovery of the structure of DNA in order to boost his deductive powers.


The dude discovered the double helix nature of dna after an LSD vision, and carl sagan gained some new insights off of cannabis....

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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: TheProphet]
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TheProphet said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Crick

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Rumors have circulated that Crick told a colleague that he had taken small doses of the hallucinogenic drug LSD at the time of the discovery of the structure of DNA in order to boost his deductive powers.


The dude discovered the double helix nature of dna after an LSD vision, and carl sagan gained some new insights off of cannabis....


That's not the same as saying that it would be "foolish" to think they could've saved the world withut drugs. In fact, that's a rather foolish thing to say to begin with.


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: TheProphet]
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TheProphet said:
Do you think drugs induce "genius"?


No, I don't think so.


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: ivi]
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Drugs definetely do something....I probably wouldn't have thought about certain things in my life if I had not used drugs....so maybe they wouldn't have thought up the same exact things (and def not at the same time) with out drugs.

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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: TheProphet]
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I don't think drugs can magically turn you into a genius. Look at your average doped up idiot, haha.


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: McKennaFan200]
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So perhaps, drugs *can* be a lubricant to genius?



thats a much better question. and I would agree to an extent.. to the extent that drugs help you throw out everything you know and start from a different point.. without that destruction of the ego, and destruction of preconceived notions, some of the resulting theories or studies would have been looked over.


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: kotik]
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"Genius" is generally a term applied to those who have managed to break through the conditioning of human society and formulate novel ideas about the world in which they're cast. The application of these ideas is where genius becomes recognized. Psychedelic substances, when met with an unordinary brain (or "extraordinary"), aid in the deconditioning process and provide a fresh perspective. But genius requires a healthy brain, a work ethic, and body capable of realizing the brain's novel insight.


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: McKennaFan200]
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McKennaFan200 said:
I don't think drugs can magically turn you into a genius. Look at your average doped up idiot, haha.


<-- Yeah, just look at me!


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Re: shakespeare smoked cannabis??? [Re: TheProphet]
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TheProphet said:
So perhaps, drugs *can* be a lubricant to genius?


As another post said, depends on your view about what constitutes a genius.

I'll make the assumption that when we sit here and talk about drugs, we are talking about those that have psychoactive properties. Psychoactive drugs are able to alter the biological processes which influence our consciousness. Drugs may aid creativity or drugs may fight fatigue. Drugs may give one perspective or drugs may bring ephoria and pleasure.

Drugs + Narrow Mind = Narrow Mind
Drugs + Open Mind = Enlightenment

I think drugs may be able to act as a catalyst to the development of "genius" by accelerating the process, but I think that even without drugs, these people would have still made important contributions to our species....


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