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Shroomery's rating system and its role in the community
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I've been thinking about this rating system....

I haven't organized my thoughts yet and dont' know where to start so I would like to see if anyone else has thoughts on it.

But one thing.....I think there should be multiple types of ratings...not just a general rating of the person.

Edited by MJF (10/13/05 04:54 PM)

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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I think you're just complaining because you have a low rating.

It's just a rating, who cares.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: spud]
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looking at your rating comments you seem to have handed out plenty of low scores yourself. isn't that a tad hypocritical?


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: psychomime]
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are you responding to me?

i don't deny being a hypocrte...and i'm not whining or complaining about my low rating...i actually kind in enjoy my 2.5 rating...right in the middle...

what are the affects of it in on a group and individual level is the topic of this thread

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: spud]
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spud said:
I think you're just complaining because you have a low rating.

It's just a rating, who cares.


i think people do care. also....what about unconcious effects? how does it affect the way people relate to a person with a low rating? does your rating affect the way people judge you?

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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MJF said:
i think people do care.


They don't

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also....what about unconcious effects?



None.

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how does it affect the way people relate to a person with a low rating?



It doesn't

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does your rating affect the way people judge you?


No.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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well on a group/individual level i don't think it has much influence. what other people think of someone does not influence what I think of someone. I would hope that's pretty universal here.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: psychomime]
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i really doubt that....

if your best friend does not like someone you do not know...you will be biased before you even meet that person.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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:whatever:


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Shroomism]
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poor

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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MJF said:
i think people do care. also....what about unconcious effects? how does it affect the way people relate to a person with a low rating? does your rating affect the way people judge you?

I agree.. I think quite a few people care - otherwise I wouldn't get so many PM's from people who get angry about various ratings they've received. I know that I was a little dismayed to pick up my 2nd and 3rd one-shroom rating during the course of the S&P split, and indeed I will admit that it had an immediate negative emotional effect on me that made me step away from the Shroomery that night. We all just need to learn to take our disappointments in stride - you're never going to make everyone happy, and if you believe having a certain rating from some member is causing you to treat them poorly, that is something that you as an individual should aim to improve upon; namely, don't worry about things you can't control. You can't control what others think of you, but if you are comfortable in your own shoes, their dissent should be but a fleeting little prick in the spance of your existence.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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I really dont think most people even look at ratings...

I know I dont really pay attention. i'll look at mine once in a great while and try to rate people who rated me, but I think I'm way behind on that shit as it is....


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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The ratings are good, because it allows you to see if the person is recognized as a good source of information, and if they have good intentions. Or if they are miseducated or just want to see you try something stupid.

Not all ratings are given based on credibility, but thats what it should be for.

I agree that maybe there could be more types of ratings. Such as the Informational rating, the Grow rating, etc...


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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Seriously though... who cares?
It's just a rating.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Shroomism]
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whether or not you care about getting a good or bad rating is not really the point of this thread.

i liked geokills post a lot and that is why i posted this in the s&m and i don't think it should have been removed from there.

also shroomism...if you claim no one cares...why the hell would people even take the time to rate...and why would there be options to view peoples ratings and see the ratings they gave?

Edited by MJF (10/12/05 10:42 PM)

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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I said who cares not no one cares.

Ratings are a way of expressing your feelings for a person publically, like a badge they wear. People will rate you good if they like you, and bad if they don't. Some people don't care about ratings at all. Either way, I don't think it really effects much at all. I've had people give me one shroom ratings and later we become friends. Usually, reading through someone's ratings will give you a semi good impression of the type of person they are when posting. You also have to consider the people doing the rating. Look at theirs. What it all boils down to is a way someone feels at the moment.. and that feeling can change over time. So it's not that big of a deal imo. Some people give and get bad ratings like its a habit. Some ratings mean something, others are bullshit. I've probably gotten upset at 1 shroom ratings before, but I got over it. In the end it's not a big deal.. a mushroom rating and words on an internet message board. nothing to lose self esteem and sleep over.

And we do have two types of ratings.. general and trade.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
And we do have two types of ratings.. general and trade.


Oh, for real?

Sorry, I don't mean to be a smartass, but its like you didn't even read all the thread. I don't think the people posting about ratings would be clueless about there being two kinds....I think there being only two kinds is one of the issues.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: LazyCrash]
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Overall, people who whine about ratings are douchebags. It is a picture of mushrooms next to your name, for God's sake. They count for absolutely nothing.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Redstorm]
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Then why have them at all?


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: TastyWaves]
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exactly...

not very many people are understanding the topic of the thread. what are the point of the ratings? how do they impact the community? and how could we make them more meaningful/usefull?

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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Trade ratings = meaningful and useful

General ratings = fun for all

We've discussed a seceret Staff ranking, for easy spotting of people with multiple bans.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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MJF said:
exactly...

not very many people are understanding the topic of the thread. what are the point of the ratings? how do they impact the community? and how could we make them more meaningful/usefull?


Vast majority of people like them, mind you most people have good ratings so they don't give them much thought as those who have bad ratings.

As for making them more useful, well if there are ideas on how to improve them I'm all for it.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Thor]
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What about the idea of more types of ratings, such as cultivation/advice/participation ratings?


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: TastyWaves]
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or maybe even somethign to do with trust...and meeting them in person or something???

i like your ideas tastywaves.

Edited by MJF (10/13/05 03:05 PM)

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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Thank you, rate me! lol


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: TastyWaves]
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TastyWaves said:
What about the idea of more types of ratings, such as cultivation/advice/participation ratings?


Or instead of that you could get more icons? I am good at making these tiny 12X12 icons, you could get an icon for a good grow log, or many good posts, things like that. Or you could get an icon for a lot of posts in a particular forum.

So if you post in OTD a lot you would get the :crankey:, if you posted a lot in S&M you would get another icon.

Two types of ratings is good enough, but the icons might be cool, kind of like being part of a family or a gang.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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That gif really is cool too.

I'm still thinking of more ideas, I know the rate system could be enhanced.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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I remember a while back, someone suggested that there be separate cultivation/mycology ratings. Now, it doesn't matter much to me since I don't cultivate, but I think this would be a good idea for helping n00bs know whose advice to take seriously. After all, there might be some expert cultivators who also happen to be assholes to people in other forums(I can think of at least one person off the top of my head who fits this description), and thus would have general ratings which do not reflect their expertise.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Silversoul]
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I think something like that is a step in the right direction... BUT

N00bs aren't going to know the difference. The only way to know for sure if the person is a myco genius is if he has like 20 myco ratings.

Maybe you could set it up is a :thumbup: or :thumbdown: system.

Getting back to my idea of icons, if you got say 20 thumbs up you could get a mycology icon under your name. That way there is a difference between having 1 myco rating and 20 (with the regular rating system they would appear the same, 5 shrooms).

This would make the person feel better about themselves and also let others know their expertise.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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They already have an icon for the Spirituality forum.

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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: Redstorm]
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and :fairy:


I like adjust's idea.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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As for the cultivation ratings... If a newb sticks around long enough, he will learn for himself who is a trustworthy and knowledgeable member.

I've witnessed firsthand and experienced myself that the more a newb (in any particular forum)has to tough things out, the more they really learn. And not having that quick-and-easy access to that type of rating may make them stay around longer, figuring things out, and thus hopefully contributing and giving back to the community.

It's all about actually staying at the Shroomery and being a part of the community, not registering and dipping out once the new member gets the info he needs.

Who needs all those silly rating categories?


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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adjust said:
I think something like that is a step in the right direction... BUT

N00bs aren't going to know the difference. The only way to know for sure if the person is a myco genius is if he has like 20 myco ratings.

:thumbup:

Maybe you could set it up is a :thumbup: or :thumbdown: system.

Getting back to my idea of icons, if you got say 20 thumbs up you could get a mycology icon under your name. That way there is a difference between having 1 myco rating and 20 (with the regular rating system they would appear the same, 5 shrooms).

This would make the person feel better about themselves and also let others know their expertise.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: MJF]
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I think ratings are a good thing here. I have quite a few 1 shroom ratings although my overall rating bounces between 4-5 on occassion. I have only been upset at two 1 shroom ratings in which I pmed an admin and had them removed. One was a false trade rating that said "Warning this guy is LEO" and another in general from the same user saying the same thing. This guy rated me that because he didn't agree with my advice In the Security forum. I thought that to be rather slanderous and apparently so did the admin.


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Re: Shroomery's rating system and how it relates to the community and individual spirituality/esteem [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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Yeah I got a fake trade rating once that I had removed....

I think in order for someone to be able to give a trade rating that the two users should make an agreement before the trade takes place that they are going to make a trade and once that is done then they are allowed access to give one trade rating to that person.

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