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Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is!
    #476556 - 12/01/01 11:44 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

Been seeing alot of questions about about this, and getting a lot of emails asking about the 'details' of this tek, so I ripped this from mycotopia, an hopefully 3D will put this one in the grow/find section where it definately deserves to be... this is a GREAT bulk tek for newbies and 'oldtimers' alike. Only thing I recommed to do different is to use the entire bottom of an 18 gallon rubbermaid with a window on the lid, instead of greenhouse pans (whatever those are).


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originally posted by 'oldtimer'
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A method I use might prove useful to you. I simply start 1/2 pint jars using traditional PF Tek. Once jars are fully colonized I get ready for straw inoculation. I soak regular old straw (which I get from a Feed & Seed) for 24 hours. After soaking I chop the straw and place in a large pasta pot. Bring to 160F for 1 hour. After pasteurization I allow straw to cool, drain and place in pans with clear "greenhouse" type lids. Take the "cake" and grind it to powder in a food processor/blender. Believe it or not the grinding does not harm the mycelium. Sprinkle the cake powder all over the straw and mix in throughly. Every minute particle of PF cake dust will become a growth point giving super fast colonization of the straw. Allow spawn to run through and case. You will get really good flushes (much more than fruiting individual cakes) and produce many more carpophores for your enjoyment. Of course optimum humidity must be maintained throughout the entire growing cycle from inoculation to fruiting. For years I started cultures using petri dishes, replated several times, transferred to grain and fruited strictly on manure/straw compost. Now, thanks to PF I have learned a much easier and quicker method for growing our fungi friends using straw and cakes with no lab time at all. See, you can teach an old head new tricks.

summary by Kaijan

Materials:

? Straw
? Miracle Grow / Potting soil (peat based mix)
? Lime (Mineral)
? Pans with clear lids.


Procedure:

1. Soak straw in water for 24 hours
2. Chop the straw and place in pasta pot, boil for an hour at 160F
3. Drain Excess water in colander and allow it to cool off.
4. Place straw in pans with clear lids.
5. Take a ? pint PF style cake and crumble or grind up into small particles.
6. Sprinkle powder over the straw and mix thoroughly.
7. Allow spawn to run through and case.
8. Maintain optimum humidity through growing cycle.

For Casing:

7. Obtain good potting soil (miracle grow, or a peat based mix.)
8. Add a small amount of lime (mineral) to raise Ph
9. Place soil mix in a pan and heat in an oven to 160F for 1 hour.
10. Allow soil to cool off completely.
11. Mix soil with water until damp. (No water drips when squeezed)
12. Spread a layer of moist soil ??s of an inch deep over the straw.
13. Mist 2-3 times a day to keep soil moist
14. Keep humidity high, but do not over water.
15. Fruiting should occur within a week.

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For further info on this method, I will pointt you to mycotopia --->

http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/2673.html?FridayOctober1220011034pm



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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #476568 - 12/02/01 12:04 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

Thanks for the post....I'm gonna try this tek right away....It almost seems to easy!

Do you think the humidity in the Rubbermaid tub will remain high enough without the use of a humidifier or perlite bottom?
Just misting twice a day?



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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: bassplayer74]
    #476582 - 12/02/01 12:23 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

well you see, this is a very advanced tek, because it doesn't use things like 'humidifiers' and 'perlite bubblers', and all that.... just mist occasionally when it feels right, you know... think like a mushroom :wink:

Hey, be thankful... it took some of us years to get this advanced, and i'll probably catch crap now for gving away the best kept secrets of cultivation..... fan & mist.

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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #476584 - 12/02/01 12:25 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

can timothy hay be used?


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #476617 - 12/02/01 01:06 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

You rock Dog.. :)
Thanks for the great TEK explanation.. :)


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #476618 - 12/02/01 01:08 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

One question though.. what does this mean exactly?

"7. Allow spawn to run through and case."

got the case part.. but what is spawn and what is it running through? :)


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: ces420]
    #476876 - 12/02/01 07:11 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

no, timothy hay sux.


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #476877 - 12/02/01 07:14 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

the 'spawn' in this case is the powdered pf cake, but it could be rye, birdseed, etc.
by run thru, he means allow it to fully colonize the straw.
it won't get solid white like a pf cake, just so long as every straw has some mycellia growing on it...


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Hippie3]
    #476939 - 12/02/01 10:57 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

How long does it take for the spawn to colonized the straw?


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #476966 - 12/02/01 12:09 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

about 5-7 days under optimum conditions.


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Hippie3]
    #476998 - 12/02/01 12:49 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

wow this looks great..
So I dont need a terranium for this shit at all?
I just spray some water around the straw every once in a whille?


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Syd_barret]
    #477621 - 12/02/01 10:33 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

unless you live in a very high humidity environment, such as a rain forest, you will want to use a terrarium to minimize drying out of the straw.


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Hippie3]
    #481543 - 12/06/01 02:39 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

bumped for carbonhoots


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #481560 - 12/06/01 02:58 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

I recently buiit a completly climate controlled room, where the use of an ultrasonic humidifier keeps relitive humitidy at 90% at all times, and the ventilation is HEPA filtered....Question. would I still need clear lids...i dont believe so if the only reason is humidity and contam.


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #481621 - 12/06/01 04:27 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

well this sounds a lot like shroomgod's straw tek. the only difference I see is soaking the straw overnite. And the lid.

does soaking the straw make it work significantly better?



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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: Anonymous]
    #481643 - 12/06/01 05:29 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

For those interested: Here is a previous thread on a very simulair subject (STRAW!)........:

COPY/PASTE

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=481163&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Jammer&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=476340

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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: carbonhoots]
    #481826 - 12/06/01 12:32 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

the critical part of oldtimer's method is finely grinding pf cakes into a powder, giving them thousands of points from which growth spreads, making for very fast colonization. also, the lack of grain helps reduce contamination. this isn't just crumbled cakes, it is ground fine as flour.


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: ces420]
    #481836 - 12/06/01 12:43 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

My friend says Timothy haykob is just dandy, and he likes the fact its already cut up for him.


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: djfrog]
    #481862 - 12/06/01 01:16 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

i was wondering why not to use timothy hay cobb; i have some and would like to try this tek and i think i just might... any reason not to use it anyone?


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Re: Oldtimer Straw Tek, Here It Is! [Re: BeppoMarx]
    #482995 - 12/07/01 01:29 PM (15 years, 6 days ago)

just bad experiences from other people who have tried it and failed.


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