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an experiment with cow dung
    #4736041 - 09/30/05 12:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

when i collected wild Cow Dung from a know shroom/cow pasture, it was just so i could use the dung as casing. one of the older and dried pieces of dung had a sun dried mushroom on it and i picked it up. when i finally decided to use this piece of dung it was going to be for outdoor cultivation. then when i broke it open i could see mecyline all inside the poop. the mushrooms featured in the field i got this cow shit in is the Gulf Coast Strain i believe. so here the plan
1. dunk the dung in water for 24 hours to rehydrate
2. add nutrients by adding casing
3. let it grow and revive itself

hopefully it'll work, if not, oh well. i got nothing to loos and everything to gain. be bad ass to have a wild specimine of Gulf Coast growing with me.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4736058 - 09/30/05 12:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

poo is not a casing material. casing materials have no nutritional value which protects the mycellium from invaders and hold water like a pro such as peat moss, coco coir, and the classic vermiculite. you don't really need to soak the poo for 24 hours just to hydrate it. you would use the soak method if the poo is fresh and needs to be leached of the ammonia. i have used a round up graden mister on dry poo with great results, but a simple 1-2 hours will be fine(saves time).


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4736078 - 09/30/05 12:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

From my experience, if you already have the mycelium you are more than half way there. No need to add anything except water. Use "organic" water should work better than tap water..


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: Dog_Z]
    #4736091 - 09/30/05 12:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

the poo is not fresh thou, it has been sun baked and is dry as a bone.
i dont see why cow dung couldn't be used as a casing. maybe not straight but is used for many casing mixtures.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4736122 - 09/30/05 12:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

aged/dry as a bone dung is usually better, unless you have major contams in the poo already. casing layers are suppose to be non nutritious to protect you patch. is this going to be an outdoor grow???


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4736163 - 09/30/05 12:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

indoor, controlled enviroment


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4736206 - 09/30/05 12:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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i dont see why cow dung couldn't be used as a casing. maybe not straight but is used for many casing mixtures.




Please show me where you saw a casing mixture with dung in it. I think alot of people have casings confused with substrates or that because people call their cased grows their "casings" that it means that the whole thing is a casing. The casing is the non-nutritious top layer and the substrate is the poo, WBS,BRF, etc,etc. Poo is definitely not a recommended casing.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: FooMan]
    #4736349 - 09/30/05 01:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well i got it from a mycro bag recipie for pans, but im sure it'll work for cubes just the same. it dose say substrate on it. im not sure what to call what im doing. i just kinda add PF cakes and mix it up then mix it up again in a couple of days. i guess casing is kinda the wrong word.
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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4736424 - 09/30/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i highly recommend you pasteurize you poo if your going to be doing an indoor grow.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4736509 - 09/30/05 02:00 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well alright, thanks for your input. i hope this experiment works. Hey so you live in Amsterdam? do you own your own growing Business? cause i dream of living in Amsterdam and open up a shop where i can legally grow my own merchandise. whatever have you. in the untied states i am seriously considering opening my own coffee shoppe. im ordering coffee beans to plant and am gonna grow a gaint garden of them in my backyard. im gonna have some tea plants too.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4748862 - 10/03/05 12:54 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

an update! its working! i took the dry cow mess that had mecy in it i found from a know shroom field. soaked it for 24 hours in water. added about 50% more wieght in coir. mixed it. then put it in a foil tray and wrapped it. and today, some of the mecy is popping thru the coir. looks like this new tek works!. this is awsome. straight from the wild mushrooms.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4749191 - 10/03/05 02:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

New Tek? I'm not sure what you did exactly, except for dunking cow shit that already contained mycelium. heheh it's been done b4. Saves you some time in spawning I guess, but hardly a "new tek".

Post pics of your results.

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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4751766 - 10/03/05 11:52 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well whatever it is. its cool.


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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4751968 - 10/04/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well, actually, what you are calling a new TEK is the original TEK,lol.
So old it's forgotten.

During the 1800's Agaricus growers obtained spawn by gathering concentrations of mycelium  from its natural habitat. This "virgin spawn" was then supplemented with materials similar to those in nature, horse manure in this case. This type of spawn, however, contains many contaminants and pests , and yielded few mushrooms.

So, your new TEK is a little over 200 years old,lol.

Good Luck. Sounds like a fun little project. Going old school. :thumbup:

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Re: an experiment with cow dung [Re: losfreddy]
    #4753526 - 10/04/05 11:59 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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well whatever it is. its cool.




Oh, no doubt...it is definitely cool. Saves you a lot of steps in the whole process. It's really cool, especially for those of us that don't live in areas where there is pastures, or wild mushi strains growing. ehhe I wish I could just go out and pull up some dung patties and grow.


BTW, nice research hippiechick! <----smart girl right there.

Please post pics of your end results....I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in seeing them.


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