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Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle.
    #458541 - 11/14/01 09:33 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Hola,

Today while hunting for cyans I stumbled upon a cluster of mushrooms that I thought looked like psilocybes, but weren't cyans. I picked 2 larger specimens to bring home for ID. When I got home, bluing was noticable on the stems, gills and cap edges . They have white stems with a light annular zone dusted with purple spores (I'm taking spore prints tonight, just to be sure of the color, but I'm 99.9% sure they're purple), even cap margins and a slight umbo. The caps have dried out a bit (they've been printing a while) and are hygrophanous, fading to that same tan color as all the other psilocybes I've found so far. The ones I picked were pretty big, one of the caps is nearly 3.5 inches from one side to the other, stems about 3.5 inches long or so, maybe a little more. The cap color when fresh is a little bit lighter shade of brown than the cap color of fresh cyanescens. The caps were viscid. I checked for a separable gelatinous pellicle, but I couldn't see one, I often have the same problem with cyans though. They were growing in the same area I would expect cyans to grow (a well mulched area around some shrubs and trees). Sorry, I don't have any pics (no digital camera), but I thought maybe someone here might be able to help out by my description. So far, I'm leaning towards Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa, I'm sure that they're not cyanescens, baeos or stuntzii. I read on mjshroomers site that Ps. cyanofibrillosa is kind of rare, anyone else ever found them? Tomorrow I'm going to go pick the rest of them in the patch. I will be taking more prints after I pick them, any (experienced) cultivators interested in giving them a shot? Anyone have any ideas of other species that fit the description?

Good Hunting!!

DH


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #458583 - 11/14/01 10:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Do you have a scanner? If you do you should scan the shrooms in =)


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #458591 - 11/14/01 10:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

nope, no scanner, maybe I'll take some pics with my 35mm tomorrow before I pick them and get them put on a CD.

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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #458628 - 11/14/01 11:13 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah do that, sound real interesting...you have peaked my curiousity...cheers


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: SThomas]
    #458689 - 11/15/01 12:21 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

definetly get some pics of cyanfibrillosa!!!!


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: Psylosymon]
    #459133 - 11/15/01 10:58 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

yea dood definetly get some pics!! Could be something new, could be something rare, either way you are a superstar if you post some pics


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #459138 - 11/15/01 11:12 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Well, the caps I picked yesterday didn't drop many spores at all, maybe they were sitting around too long before I started printing them. The few spores that fell are a purplish-brown shade though. The stems blued like mad where I cut the caps off. I'll take some pics and pick the rest after class today.

Good Hunting!!

DH


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Big fucking dissapointment [Re: spores]
    #459499 - 11/15/01 05:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

FUCK.
You guys aren't going to believe this shit, I barely can myself. So I go back to the patch this afternoon with a cam to take some pics and they're gone! I look around the area, seeing if I can find any others. In a clump of grass a few feet from where they were growing yesterday I see all of the shrooms, picked and thrown on the ground gills up. Really pissed me off, now they probly wont drop spores worth a fuck since the gills have a bunch of water in them, I don't know how long ago they had been picked, but they were already bluing when I found them again. So I wasn't able to get any shots of them in habitat, which really blows. But I do have the shrooms, I took some pics of them and I'm going to try as hard as I can to get a decent print. I was pretty sure they were in a spot no one would find. Anyway, I'll finish up this roll of film and try to get it put on a CD next week so I can post some pics. I'm gonna have to start carrying a camera with me all the time, heh. The moral of the story is: DONT LEAVE SHROOMS BEHIND WHEN YOU FIND THEM. :)

Good Hunting!!

A pissed DH


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Re: Big fucking dissapointment [Re: spores]
    #459803 - 11/15/01 10:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, these new ones seem to be making decent prints. Makes me feel better :).

DH


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Re: Big fucking dissapointment [Re: spores]
    #460389 - 11/16/01 01:04 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

OK, I have 4 decent prints ready to go. Come on, I know someone wants to grow em out :) :). These things put cyans to shame in the bluing department (must be very high in psilocin), stems turned very dark blue where I cut the caps off, I might do a little bioassay tonight :).

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Re: Big fucking dissapointment [Re: spores]
    #460840 - 11/16/01 09:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i dont understand dude,the shrooms were picked and thrown on the fuckin ground!!!??? what the hells up with that.
i cant wait to see them pics!! i love seeing different shrooms.


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Re: Big fucking dissapointment [Re: Psylosymon]
    #460860 - 11/16/01 10:10 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah dude, it was fucked up. I still know where the patch is though, maybe it'll put out another flush. I'll try to get the pics put on a CD next week. I still have 2 prints left for people to try out, Anno, BIO, anyone?

DH


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #461309 - 11/17/01 03:04 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

hey DethHed,

do they look like this?





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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: mikeofyle]
    #461358 - 11/17/01 03:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Wow dude!

Yes, very very similar to those, the stems were a bit thinner though. Have you ID'd those?

DH



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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #461389 - 11/17/01 04:28 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

maybe azures i dunno but definatly danksters maybe p. cynofibulous however u spell that fir tree liker shroom


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #461578 - 11/17/01 08:15 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

this is the 2nd year i've seen this sp. i'm not sure what they are. if they're cyanofibrillosa, they're huge. definitely not azurescens.
they vary a lot in appearance. the cap isn't always umbonate(may be strain specific) and they occasionally get a little wavy. the gills are consistantly deeper than P. cyanescens and the cap color is a little lighter too.
i'm thinking they're either new to the PNW or a new species all together.


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: mikeofyle]
    #461633 - 11/17/01 09:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, the ones I found were much larger than the cyans I've been finding. The first one I picked had a small umbo but the others didn't really. They just had hemispheric caps like the ones in your pic. The gills were also deeper than cyans. I think that's them. Too cool. Nice pic BTW :)

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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: mikeofyle]
    #461804 - 11/18/01 01:33 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Those are interesting. I am not sure what they are besides Psilocybes. mikeofyle, If you are taking prints I'd like to trade for one. I can compare it to Dethhed's contribution and with luck cultivate it. I should be able to identify it at that point.


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: Workman]
    #462247 - 11/18/01 02:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

awesome pic,i think they kinda do look like cyanfibrillosa.


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Re: Help, un-ID'd bluing Psilocybe sp. in Seattle. [Re: spores]
    #463656 - 11/19/01 07:12 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Well guys,

Looks like I fucked up most of the pics, heh. Only a couple are worth posting and they suck too :p. I was having problems with this camera. Anyway, here's my blurry pics.


Shows the hygrophanous fading


Same, but you can see the bluing where I cut the cap from the stem a little.


Theres a pic comparing one with a couple cyans. I fucked it up, I know :), but you can kinda see it.




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