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 Lizard King
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 New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!)   1
#898398 - 09/21/02 08:51 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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For those who don't remember, I found a suspected new active Psilocybe last October. It has been ruled out as being atlantis, its definitely not atlantis. It has been sugestd that it could possibly be Psilocybe mammillata, but MJ and a few others say its definitely not. So I suspect its a new Psilocybe. I found 3 specimens of this mushroom this spring, but that was it, all summer they didn't fruit at all. And just this week they stated fruitng again in mass quanity, what you see pictured isn't a 1/3 of them, I left lots to mature for prints and so that when GG visits next week he'll have some to pick too  I'm guessing they are a fall fruiters from what I've observed so far. The first large dose bioassy will be conducted tommarow Will let you know how it goes, I suspect they are quite potent, we'll find out
Here are some pics, enjoy
LK,
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Edited by Lizard King (09/21/02 08:54 PM)
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Lizard King
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898409 - 09/21/02 08:56 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898464 - 09/21/02 09:31 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool. Nice specimens and excellent photos.
Happy mushrooming!
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 Gumby
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898479 - 09/21/02 09:41 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome pics. The caps almost remind me of Ps. coropholia(sp?).
What kind of habitat do these guys grow in? What's the biggest one you've found?
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 Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898496 - 09/21/02 09:48 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh my God, they are so beautiful..
Here is the last image, try it again..
I'll be there with bells on, i suppose i'll have to be! LOL!
Georgia is the final frontier,
Keep on shroomin!!!!
GGreatOne
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898907 - 09/22/02 08:29 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898926 - 09/22/02 08:44 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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WOW!!! What was the substrate these things were feeding on?
The temps must have been low beings it was October, Ga is getting better all the time.. Good job...
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Lizard King
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: GGreatOne234]
#898934 - 09/22/02 08:58 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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What kind of habitat? Well, its kind of a weird habitat. Lots of tall weeds on open flood plain, sany soil, mossy, and the groud has been disturded about 3-4 yeaqrs ago. Thats about the best I can do. The biggest I've found was about 5 inches tall with an inch and half wide cap, stems are usually only a few millimeters thick but can get to be about an 1/8 of an inch thick.
I'll be listening for the bells when I meet you at the gas station GG Naw, man, if you can't make it its no big deal. I just figured you'd like to get some weilii pickin in this year and what better to top if off than a new species, you can be the second person ever to put your hands on it How many chances do you get to trip on an unnamed newly discovered psilocybe that you'll be able to say you were the second person to ever ingest this species? But if you can't make it, like I said its no big deal, I could just give you a detailed description of how potent they are rather than you finding out first hand BTW: GG, all the caps I printed dropped excellent prints, so I'll get a few packaged up and sent your way in the next day or so.
LK,
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GGreatOne234
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#898946 - 09/22/02 09:07 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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LK, Take a look at your Psilocybe Mushrooms of the World.
LLooks a lot like Psilocybe wassoniorum Guzman and Pollock. Wasson's mushroom.
GG
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#899504 - 09/22/02 02:47 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Neato Shroom.
gota hand it to you, LK... walking off into uncharted habitats, with an eye to the ground.
the Mark of a true devotee- most habbyists would just stick to the popp pies down your neck of the woods... you?ve got your shroom eye burning on the lawns, dirt, even swamps or good ol? GA.. Bravo.
The description of the Wasson doesn?t include any indication of such a thick ol? pellicle... But otherwise, I?d have to agree with GG.
Lest we forget, I found a brand new species two years ago, only to have MJ send it off to Dr. Gartz, who told us it was a freaking Ps. Cyan. You tell me:
Obviously a Cyanescens...
Well, so are these.... found but a mile away in similar substrate:
And so went my one true chance at Psilocybe Mattsoii-
Still, you never know
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Lizard King
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: mattso]
#899783 - 09/22/02 04:53 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah!! I remember that pic, but I had forgotten it Those were some funky looking psilos, almost baeo-ish, yet a little cyan-ish, and I remember MJ saying they were just a varient of Ps. cyanescen that grew under unfavorable conditions or something along those lines. You never know, maybe they were somehting new, I really question half the ID's that mycologists have out there, mushrooms are very hard to pin point exact taxonomy, and mistakes are made frequently. Have you ever found anymore of thise funky shrooms? If so I'd think about sending more to Guzman instead, and just label them un known bluing Psilocybe from washington and see what he comes up with.
Anyways, I've looked at the Ps. wassoniorum and have to say there is good similarity there, but having picked this new species for a year now I really know every little detail about them, and I don't think they are wassoniorum either. Its a possibility, its hard to say by just looking at one picture of one mushroom of the wassoniorum. My mushrooms only look similar because it had just rained(actually it was raining) and they have that orange color when extremely wet, but on a normal day they are much more dark in color. Alot of Psilocybes have very similar characteristics, some are even macroscopically identical to others, but the microscope tells a different story.
First off the fibrillose on the stems of my Psilos is different from wassoniorum. Also the cap on my mushrooms will always expand and plane out and even turn up, and I don't think this happens with wassonirum, they stay conic. Also my mushrooms commonly have somewhat of an acute and sometimes broad umbo. Also the wassonirum stems only measure in the 30-40mm range and the stems on my mushrooms average 40-60mm and can get to be 100mm+, much like a liberty cap with a long twisting stem. The wassoniorum has up to a 10mm long pseudorhiza(supposedly a very distinct feature of the wassoniorum) and my mushrooms lack this feature all together, the stem never narrows at the base. Plus the habitat and range of wassoniorum doesn't really match up with this new species at all.
I think it either has to be Ps. mammillata or a new species.
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#902197 - 09/23/02 05:02 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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How did the bioassay go????????
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#902634 - 09/23/02 07:37 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#902690 - 09/23/02 07:55 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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~those are beautiful! 
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: MushroomSally]
#902721 - 09/23/02 08:07 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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beautiful!
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#902759 - 09/23/02 08:24 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any more info? How does it look bruised, what kind of substrate was it growing in? Looks kinda like marshlands, or it could just be rainy...lol... Anyways, nice find, good luck with identifying, for your sake, I hope it truly is a different subspecies... Any idea's what youll name it? lol.... How does that stuff work? Whoever finds it gets to name it or what?
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Everything posted above was out of fun, none should be taken serious. I am currently under the influence so take that into consideration.
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#903345 - 09/23/02 11:55 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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So why do you think it's active? huh?
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#903351 - 09/23/02 11:58 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lizard King
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: euphoria2123]
#903879 - 09/24/02 05:27 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why do I think its active? Because I know what an active mushroom looks like, because I've picked thousands and thousands of active mushrooms in the past 5 years. Because I picked this same species for a year now and have eaten it before, because they stain blue like a mofo, because they taste magic, smell magic and ARE magic, thats why.
Seriously, these mushrooms stain blue readily, just because you don't see any in these pics doesn't mean anything, I don't go pinching shrooms to get a bluing reaction, I pick gracefully and try to damage the mushrooms as little as possible and they don't stain much that way.
The bioassy went very well. 50 small mushrooms were ingested, around 2 dried grams and they were pretty damn potent! I would rate them right next to weilii, probably a bit stronger that weilii weight wise. But weilii is so much more heavy and meaty that it takes far less mushrooms of weilii than this new species to get effects. This new species seems to be very speedy in its effects, almost similar to pan subbs except much stronger, similar to LSD kinda.
Yes Mr. mushrooms, I'd love for you to have a print! Email me at tud@attbi.com and I'll get a few prints sent out today, or asap.
More pics of other mushrooms to come later today... Lizard found Ps. atlantis yesterday!!!! And also picked 175 weilii!!
LK,
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Lizard King
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: euphoria2123]
#903894 - 09/24/02 05:37 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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WTF ever!! You obviously don't know jack shit about weilii. I know who you are, I got your email a few weeks back, and I've talked with a mutual friend of ours(the discoverer of atlantis) and he has warned me about you. Told me about how he was nice enough to share a few patches of weilii with you and show you the ropes and the next thing he knows your MOM is calling him asking what kind of drugs he gave you because your flipping your lid after eating some weilii on the way home from a hunt.
Don't come on here and start shit, and stay the hell out of that neighborhood, our friend told me that you have been warned to stay out of that neighborhood, I better not catch your ass there!!
These mushrooms are so so obviously not weilii its ridiculous. I've had the discoverer of atlantis down here picking with me last year and showed him this new species in person, and he assured me they weren't atlantis. I've also been conversing with Paul stamets about this new species, he'd laugh if he knew someone was calling these mushrooms weilii.
I'm not even going to get in to it more than I have already, I think its obvious as hell to anyone with half a brain that these aren't weilii.
LK,
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 Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#903986 - 09/24/02 06:53 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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"flippin out on weilii's" hehehehe!
Keep on shroomin,
GGreatOne234
Thats classic.
Keep shroomin,
GG
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#904642 - 09/24/02 01:28 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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My apologies for my ignorance. But reguarding who I am or what I have done , you don't have your facts straight. Also, please refrain from posting silly threats.
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#905284 - 09/24/02 05:31 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lizard King
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: ]
#906923 - 09/25/02 09:16 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't make threats, I may have been a little harsh, but I meant it. I think I do have my facts straight, and you should be sorry for your ignorance. I'm sorry I had to act like this in this forum, let alone my own thread. I have troubles keeping my cool when someone questions my integrity and my honesty. No more flaming coming from me, but for future reference you can refrain from responding to any of my posts or even discussing my posts, and I will do the same for you.
Bye now,
LK,
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#911056 - 09/26/02 10:31 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whereas my post may have been ignorant and posted without thought, I do not think that denying the posting of opinions is the best idea. As I see it , weilii is fruiting in a rare way and alot of folks really want to find it. Establishing some basic ettiquet about searching for this mushroom (in a state that didn't have a commonly known ps. species prior) is very important to the future of alot of hunters and the mushrooms. As I have been completely upfront about my experience looking for this mushroom (and some e-mails expressing my experiences to you and posts here) I also want people to find it and not go crazy in the excitement of the moment. Although your description of my weilii flipout (it had nothing to do with mushrooms) isn't completely accurate I do believe that it is a scenario that can easily happen. The end result is that ALL mushroom hunters could be persecuted. I just hope to assist those who seek to experience a very special mindset. People deserve it. The last thing I want is a bunch of idiots who trespass to pick some shrooms so that they can "be the man and sell drugs " to people who really don't understand what they are getting into.
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#913102 - 09/27/02 06:42 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great find as always - i think and examination of the gill fragments may help - the cystidia would be the bst method of identification. So this species was lignious??
Looks similar to the subaeruginosa variant ps.tasmaniana
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: Lizard King]
#1103166 - 12/02/02 03:37 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your beautiful pictures always disappear from the shroomery after some time.
Is it possible to see them somewhere else?
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Re: New active Psilocybe species from GA!!!(PICS!) [Re: zeronio]
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