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Deeper or wider?
    #4273446 - 06/08/05 10:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

So I am about to case the last of my PF jars.. and I wanted to know what people thought about the container size. Do you think that a smaller container with a deeper substrate will yield more... or a much bigger container but substrate pretty shallow? Or... put them all together and make one big, deep casing..?

So from Experience what do you guys think?

~Quiescence~


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4273465 - 06/08/05 10:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

big deep casing will yeild bigger and more shrooms,im going 6 inch sub (horse poo) and a 3/4 inch casing 60 verm and 40 coir!!!!!!


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: sludge]
    #4273523 - 06/08/05 10:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sludge has it right. The deeper the substrate, the larger the fruits. The wider the deep substrate, the more fruits you'll yield.


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Wronguy]
    #4273593 - 06/08/05 10:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It's a tradeoff. You want big fruits, go deep, you want more fruits, go wide. All in all, you shouldn't notice too much difference in final yeild. Good luck, though!


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4273602 - 06/08/05 10:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Go deep and wide. I wouldn't sacrifice depth or surface area, because when combined together, you'll see amazing results. The bigger base for mushrooms to draw nutrition from, the bigger yields you'll see.


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4273635 - 06/08/05 10:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hey Diver,

If you DID have to sacrifice one or the other, which would you pick?


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4273637 - 06/08/05 11:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Darn.. that's what I thought.. that means I have to wait until the store opens tomorrow to case them...

Thanks for the help guys.

~Quiescence~


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: CLUTCH]
    #4273660 - 06/08/05 11:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

CLUTCH said:
Hey Diver,

If you DID have to sacrifice one or the other, which would you pick?




Neither, I'd get the correct container!  :tongue:


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4273662 - 06/08/05 11:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I am with Diver...beside the phallic reference....deep AND wide is the way.


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4274117 - 06/09/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Off topic here...

Quiescence, what happened to that awesome looking Blue Eye? Gotta love the shrooms but its a bit generic don't you think? (no offense guys!)

Sorry, just had to say that.


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Gatorade]
    #4274147 - 06/09/05 01:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

LOL.

Well.. I had that grow log.. and all of the posts were from me saying "updated" .. so I got kinda sick of seeing blue eye...blue eye....blue eye....blue eye...

Not to mention I was pretty proud of my first grow... But since you like it too....

~Quiescence~


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4274170 - 06/09/05 01:07 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My Girlfriends says both :smirk:

Def. likes it deeper IME.

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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4274207 - 06/09/05 01:13 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Deeper or wider?




maybe I should go wake up momma for this question!~

lolzz

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I like my bulk substrates to be 4" to 6" deep.

and use at least a 12" x 12" plastic dish pan.

tc


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4274217 - 06/09/05 01:15 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Awesome update, damn that was quick...

Now for something on topic.

What depth would you recommend, i have heard 3-6 inchs deep. I personally was aiming for 4 inch substrate and 3/4 inch casing. What would be the best compromise between size and depth, without any sacrifice?


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4274220 - 06/09/05 01:15 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah.... deeper..deeper.. deeeeeper... OW! Thats my cervix.  :doggystyle:

But deeper and wider it shall be..


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4274306 - 06/09/05 01:45 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah.... deeper..deeper.. deeeeeper... OW! Thats my cervix.




:grin:

I'd say 4 is great, 5 is pretty deep...and anything more than that is probably un-necessary.

Mine are usually 1in thick...But Here lately i've been going for 4in...4in is way better IMO.

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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4275155 - 06/09/05 10:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

This thread has way too much sexual overtone. Let's get back on topic here people. Deeper and wider is better. But the motion of the ocean sets the mood.  :grin:


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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4275690 - 06/09/05 01:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Wow 6"? Is that ONLY for bulk.. or have you tried grains that deep as well? Is one 12x12 6" casing really going to be more than double two 12x12 3" casings? That would take a lot of pints...
So is that for grains as well.. I'm having postal problems with my poo...

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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4275727 - 06/09/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I like to use 1 3/4-3 inches on all my stuff. I would take width over depth, easily.



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Re: Deeper or wider? [Re: Quiescence]
    #4276171 - 06/09/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't do 6" of grain...that would be alot of grain.

4" to 6" of bulk substrate...like horse poo...hell yes!~

and I get larger fruits...I like mine big!~


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