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OfflineDruginduced
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People who dont use drugs or alcohol.
    #4228824 - 05/28/05 02:12 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

How is this possible? :confused:


The only way I see, would be if they were given everything they ever needed/wanted.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Druginduced]
    #4228837 - 05/28/05 02:18 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I think the only real reason could be fear.

Because I've done most drugs and I've been around druggies, and I've made my OWN choices. I've had bad hangovers, I've smoked tons of pot. And now I've made my OWN choices about drugs. And my reasons to me are really good now, because I made those reasons. I made the choices I follow now.

People that have never tried let someone else decide for them, or scare them.

It's kinda sad.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: freddurgan]
    #4228852 - 05/28/05 02:24 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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freddurgan said:
I think the only real reason could be fear.






There's a whole lot more that goes into it, but this was the first thing that came to mind for me when I read this. My brother has never tried any drugs that he could not get from a drugstore, and the primary reason for this is fear, much of which was instilled upon him by government propoganda such as the dare program as well as school health classes.

It is sad.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: freddurgan]
    #4228853 - 05/28/05 02:24 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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freddurgan said:
I think the only real reason could be fear.

Because I've done most drugs and I've been around druggies, and I've made my OWN choices. I've had bad hangovers, I've smoked tons of pot. And now I've made my OWN choices about drugs. And my reasons to me are really good now, because I made those reasons. I made the choices I follow now.

People that have never tried let someone else decide for them, or scare them.

It's kinda sad.




Yeah i like what you said. You slightly misconstrued the direction i was headed however... How could a person not use drugs or alcohol and still be alive?


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Druginduced]
    #4228865 - 05/28/05 02:31 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

my mom is like that. well she smoked pot a few times in college, but she said she hates to not have control over her reality. shes level headed and all for drug legalization, she just doesn't like the way drugs and alcohol make her feel.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4228872 - 05/28/05 02:34 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

And I had always thought drugs gave me more control over my reality.

Shows the diversity in our preceptions of the effects of drugs on us.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4228874 - 05/28/05 02:35 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have used drugs, but I don't drink and I only use other drugs rarely. I have no problems with them and they don't bother me, but I just don't really feel like doing them that often.

The only think I want to do often is E, and I still don't let myself do it often.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4228878 - 05/28/05 02:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

welll i guess it just goes to show how each and every person really does experience things differently than the next :heart: :mushroom2:


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Druginduced]
    #4228885 - 05/28/05 02:39 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Lots of people don't, and thats fine, as long as they don't judge others that do. Myself, I don't do a lot of drugs and eschew alcohol. To tell the truth I'm usually sober when I post here...


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Druginduced]
    #4228891 - 05/28/05 02:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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RydawgSupreme said:
welll i guess it just goes to show how each and every person really does experience things differently than the next :heart: :mushroom2:




Quote:

emptywisdom said:
Shows the diversity in our preceptions of the effects of drugs on us.




look how similar our posts were! maybe we experience things more similarly than the average comparision!


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #4228902 - 05/28/05 02:45 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
To tell the truth I'm usually sober when I post here...




Me too.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Druginduced]
    #4228906 - 05/28/05 02:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I like it when the red water flows


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: faslimy] * 1
    #4228999 - 05/28/05 03:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you people think doing drugs show you 'reality'?
maybe you need to reconcider your opinions as they are clearly wrong.
its one big rationalisation and you know it..


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: grphish]
    #4229016 - 05/28/05 03:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Reality is subjective so how can you say anyone is wrong for how they interpret it?


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Twister] * 1
    #4229022 - 05/28/05 03:35 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

we're talking conventional reality


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: grphish]
    #4229039 - 05/28/05 03:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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we're talking conventional reality




You're talking conventional reality.

I've used drugs to help me see there is more to reality than conventional thought. :wink:

You say rationalization, I say mind expansion. Call it what you will. I don't know what you you get from drugs, or if you even do any. I just know what I get from them, and the ability to rationalize well is usually not among those blessings. :grin:

See, with good drugs, rationality and convention go out the window as some of the thought patterns I am trying to bypass in attempt to broaden my awareness and amplify my perception. Works like magic for me. Hope you can get in on this sometime. It's really great.

Good luck.

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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: grphish]
    #4229043 - 05/28/05 03:41 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Its still subjective. Some people take the existence of god as being part of conventional reality. Each person forms their own reality and if this reality is affected by drugs or alcohol who are you to tell them that their opinion is wrong? Reality doesnt have to entail sobreity.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: grphish]
    #4229087 - 05/28/05 03:54 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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grphish said:
you people think doing drugs show you 'reality'?
maybe you need to reconcider your opinions as they are clearly wrong.
its one big rationalisation and you know it..




i'm surprised to see such a comment. i believe it's innapropriate to call anyone's opinion 'wrong'. i too agree that drugs do not show reality, but i could not make such a judgement on the way anyone else feels.


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: Kosher]
    #4229089 - 05/28/05 03:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

is that your work in your avatar?


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Re: People who dont use drugs or alcohol. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4229235 - 05/28/05 05:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i used to do way too much drugs years ago and now i only use occasionally.. like weed once in a couple months and other drugs like once a year or less and actually this sober living is quite ok. if you cant see how people can live without drugs maybe u should cut down a lil bit.


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