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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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No. You find it yourself.

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: shroomydan]
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:shrug: The absolute truth is harder to find then I thought :lol:... guess it's because it's non-existant. :tongue:


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: shroomydan]
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shroomydan said:
John Paul II predicted a new Spring time for the Church. Perhaps Benedict XVI will lead us out of the Winter of relativism, protestantism, Marxism, and all other truth denying isms which have plagued the modern era.


Hopefully Catholicism as well.


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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Silversoul]
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:lol: no, that's the only ism allowed... you see God give them the right to fuck with our lives and morality, as god knows best about peoples preferences and what's ultimately the best way to do something. Why god is letting all these wars occur, you might not see a purpose to it, but god does, you just need to have faith... and it's not too late for even you to recieve slavation from the lord!!!

:heart: :flowerchild: :inlove: :hippie: :flowers:

(couldn't help myself)

Edit:
was going to correct my mistake and change "slavation" to "salvation", but I kinda of like the typo.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

Edited by Psychoactive1984 (04/19/05 10:14 PM)

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: ZippoZ]
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zippoz said:
so does this pope fit the revelations predictions of the end of the world and so on. ( damn that isnt worded right)


yes...if you believe this nutcake ..

http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article41.htm

:lol: OK..so hes' not black...


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"anchor blocks counteract the process of pontiprobation..while omalean globes regulize the pressure"...

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Annapurna1]
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Damn, well with the Bible predicting everything, almost makes life not worth living, damn self-fullfilling prophecies.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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I love how this new pope is cracking down on tolerance. I'm sure that's what Jesus would've wanted.


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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Silversoul]
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Of course, despite what the Bible says, Jesus was a harcore neo-con, the OG of neo-con-sim (that ism will stay for sure). All that talk about tolerance, and acceptance only applied to those in the Catholic Church, it'll apply to the other sects once they jump on the bandwagon.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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wikipedia ..

Quote:
In the United States, during the 2004 presidential campaign, then Cardinal Ratzinger expressed the view that voters would be "cooperating in evil" if they backed a political candidate supporting legalized abortion [john kerry]


if thats not a neocon..then i dont know what is...but im not too worried ..since hes' already 78 y/o...


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"anchor blocks counteract the process of pontiprobation..while omalean globes regulize the pressure"...

Edited by Annapurna1 (04/20/05 01:10 AM)

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Annapurna1]
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It's social conservatism, which is not unique to neoconservatism. If he expressed views advocating the unilateral policing of the world, then I'd call him a neocon.


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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Silversoul]
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he advocates that indirectly by implicitly aligning himself with bush as above...


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"anchor blocks counteract the process of pontiprobation..while omalean globes regulize the pressure"...

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Annapurna1]
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Supporting a neocon as the lesser of two evils does not make you a neocon. Besides, there were some pro-life third party candidates as well who were not neocons, such as Constitution Party candidate Michael Peroutka.


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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Annapurna1]
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http://www.pfo.org/fort-tel.htm

http://www.nisbett.com/spiritualism/ms/ms5.htm (top of the page)

Odd how the Bible interprets sooth-sayers... should we really be trusting a man of god for predictions? Is he somehow above a soothsayer as his prediction has been self fullfilling... I mean fullfilled? IMO these passages additionally rule out the Da Vinci code, Nostradamus, and Saint Malachy. Unless of course you justify your stance in regards to it as the passages do; in which case it is acceptable if it actually occurs and promotes god... which further makes it easier for justification of anything through manipulation of events and suggestions of god's handiwork.

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Just for fun...
http://www.layhands.com/SpiritualWarfare2.htm (also shit about fortune telling in here, if you care to give it a read)

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--Are You Giving the Devil a "Foothold" in Your Life? (Ephesians 4:27)
--"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron." (1 Timothy 4:1-2)

:shrug: I must admit... I'm a demon. DO NOT BE MISLEAD BY ME, I'M A HYPOCRITICAL LIAR, WITH A SCARRED CONSCIOUS, AND I HAVE MUCH TO GAIN FROM SUGGESTING CONTRADICTIONS AT 2:45 A.M. IN THE MORNING.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

Edited by Psychoactive1984 (04/20/05 03:45 AM)

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal [Re: Twirling]
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Twirling said:
There have been many, many people who have made that claim. It usually results in the Crusades, Manifest Destiny, or the War on Terror.


Clearly so. But one has to differentiate between a message and people who misinterpret the message. For example, if we assume entheogens are good and important, aren't there many instances of misuse? Similarly, peace and justice in the Mideast are obviously good. But there are people who use that cause to do terrible things. And democracy is clearly better than fascism. But people do bad things in the name of democracy. This does not make us reject entheogens, peace and justice or democracy. Would not the same principle apply to Christianity?

You can bet that for any good idea there are people who will work very hard to discredit it by doing terrible things in its name. And the better the idea, the harder they'll try.


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"We're all in this consciousness-raising business together."
"An idle mind is the devil's workshop."
"Everyone should eat hashish, but only once." - S. Dali

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal [Re: wjames]
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Oh, btw...



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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal [Re: Silversoul]
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lol that was a great post. My sentiments lie with you exactly wjames. He gives christianity a bad name. I hope the jihaad pursues the holy war on him since he is a religious figure.


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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: crackwhorebob]
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> The truth will not contradict itself.

... and yet the truth is contradiction itself... such are the wonderful layers of beauty we have been given to live within...


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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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Psychoactive1984 said:
:shrug: The absolute truth is harder to find then I thought :lol:... guess it's because it's non-existant. :tongue:


Obviously!
:confused: :thumbup:

:sun:


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Disclaimer!?

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal [Re: crackwhorebob]
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crackwhorebob said:
My sentiments lie with you exactly wjames. He gives christianity a bad name.


For the record, I didn't mean to imply that Ratzinger is one of those who try to discredit Christianity. I've never met im so I don't know. He's had bad press, but so do a lot of people. When Reagan became president, people had really bad things to say about him. Now the view is more positive. So who can say? I figure we should pray that the guy is inspired to be a good Pope. Complaining isn't going to do any good.


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"We're all in this consciousness-raising business together."
"An idle mind is the devil's workshop."
"Everyone should eat hashish, but only once." - S. Dali

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Re: New Pope elected - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger [Re: Gomp]
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there was a lot of pressure on the catholic church for opening to new ideas and revoke long standing values: the use of condoms, woman priesthood, etc...
well, this is a very clear "nein" to the rising liberal sects within the catholic church. it's also a departure from the opening to society as a whole with all its creeds that the previous pope instituted.

the catholic church is closing within itself, but the world will keep changing, frontiers will keep falling, and hopefully so will fundamentalism.

we need freedom more than ever!

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