Auto-SummaryThis forum post criticizes a book classified under Philosophy/Inspiration/Self-Help, questioning its placement in non-fiction sections and dismissing its spiritual and inspirational claims. The author argues that philosophical devices like Atlantis are subjective and not bound by modern physics. They defend the book's value, comparing it to inspirational works like Anthony Robbins' "Awaken the Giant Within" and the impact of art like Picasso's. The post emphasizes the subjective nature of inspiration and the importance of personal value in artistic expression, contrasting it with the author's criticism of the book. They also touch on the broader implications of suppressing creative and intuitive human experiences, likening it to historical suppression of artistic expression leading to the Dark Ages. The author concludes by defending the right to engage with and appreciate diverse forms of inspiration, regardless of their objective verifiability.
What is it that both you and Hue do not understand about a book written under the subject matter of Philosophy/Inspiration/Self-Help?
It is a fact that those words are written on the back of the cover.
I don't see a darn thing on this book that says it belongs in the non fiction section, let alone the spirituality or religious section. HELLLLLLLLLLO? 
Since when is a book written under that subject matter of Philosophy/Inspiration/ Self-help suppose to be bound by provable facts and accuracy of modern physics?
So Hue, Plato used Atlantis as an intellectual device? Why can't JZ?
As far as spiritual truth goes, at least you Hue, know how subjective that is. Are you going to tell this board that there is only one right truth of spirit and that YOU know what it is?
I feel like I entered the twilight Zone here at S&P lately. I have the actual book. I have read the actual book. I have said, it was a very uplifting and an empowering read, well worth the 12.50 it costs.
You are throwing heresay at me Hue related to something I experienced first hand? You haven't even read it have you?
Rands job is to debunk claims of the paranormal right? How can he prove if someone lived in another human incarnation or not, especially in a place and time that is still considered a myth. No shit Rand can tear this book to shreds. It's not even a book geared towards the paranormal and if you would read it before making heresay criticisms you would know how out of the ball park your comments are. It reads very inspirationally is what it does.
I've read near a 1,000 different type of books from religious-spiritual-inspirational-self help-new agey-metaphysics-quantum consciousness-cosmic consciousness and the White Book I would say most closely read to me like Anthony Robins (motivational speaker) book called "Awaken the Giant Within". Have you read that one? It was good and a on the best best sellers list. The White book was even better to me along the lines of being motivational and awakening the giant within. Anthony Robins charges a shitload for Motivational Seminars and his books cost 3 times what hers does.
The inspiration facet of the book is very artistically done. Like art that inspires us, the beauty of it is in the eye of the beholder. Some people pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for paint on a canvas because it inspires them and they appreciate it that much.
Are we not on planet earth anymore. That's how things work around here. Jiggy looks around? Looks like earth to me.
Do I think the guy who pays $800,000 for a Picasso abstract got ripped off? Subjectively speaking, YES! I wouldn't pay that for a painting that doesn't even look like anything remotely real. It's total fantasy. Yet, some people see truth in his work because it touches a place within them and moves them.
This is like you guys being critical of a Picasso you have never even seen and have given yourself a chance to be moved by it and place your own appreciative value on it.
Since when does inspirational art work have to be of a subject provable to be in physical existence?
The philosophy part is just that. It has a philosophy for living an empowered, self mastered, self lead life.
The inspiration part is just that. It inspires one to lift themselves up to realizing greater self potentials.
The self- help part is just that. It helps one to get beyond their self limiting beliefs and ideas so they can realize more then they ever thought they could.
I don't keep many books, when done, I give them away or sell them at used book stores. I bought this one about 7 years ago and have kept it because it was like a piece of artwork to me that was very inspiring.
No kidding swami, when I want to fix my car engine, i am going to look to the source of the car maker and use it's Manuel. The source matters when dealing with hands on stuff.
When it comes to stuff that inspires me, the credibility of the writer goes out the window and just doesn't matter. It either inspires me or it doesn't. That's a subjective, not objective thing.
It's looking like Micheal Jackson is a lying child molester and charged $1200 a ticket for a more current concert in New York. People paid it. He was sold out. His music is still great to dance to and can pump me up energetically speaking. There isn't much wither you are going to be able to do to stop people from appreciating artistic expression in this world.
Lets, see, the last time some tried that what happened.......we fell into the DARK AGES. What happened when the Renaissance which pulled man kind out of them occurred? People started to appreciate creative artistic expression again, through music, dance, art, and literature.
Swami, you were miffed when you were banned and your voice was silenced here. Hue, you were one of the biggest supporters for the freedom of speech and against silencing people when that happened. Why is it the two of you want to silence what this woman has to say?
If you two don't believe in anything that your 5 physical senses can't see taste, touch , hear or smell, that's okay. If you want to limit your life's experiences and what ideas you can entertain based on what your 5 physical senses and the left side of the brain can provide you, that's fine too.
Some people choose to experience life through an additional intuitive sense as well and engage in functions of the right brain also. There is nothing you can do to stop it. Why do you two want to oppress the intuitive creative and imaginative abilities of the human being that bring artistic inspiration to this life?
Bringing Rand into the picture to debunk a book that is clearly not classified as a non fiction book is just ridiculous. It's like Rand being proud he can debunk Darth Vader being real. Give that man a Blue Ribbon. How dooooooooes he do it.
He can't stop the group that set up an official Order of the Jedi religion in Australia. Who and what can oppress the human spirit and who or what wants to and why is the question? That is what is dark and dank here, not peoples efforts to uplift it.
-------------------- Ahuwale ka nane huna.
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