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Atlantis found?
    #482510 - 12/07/01 12:09 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011206/sc/cuba_discovery_dc.html]

well, we're not sure yet. But with the finding of the http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html underwater ancient city near Japan not too long ago...... we shall see.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: redworm]
    #482561 - 12/07/01 12:56 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I think that might be Lemuria. Atlantis is about under the Bermuda Triangle I believe.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: redworm]
    #482602 - 12/07/01 02:05 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for the links!!!!

I read about that structure off okinawa in the Japan Times sometime last year, it had a couple of those photos as well...and surprise surprise after ONE half page article that was the last I ever heard about it. This find is interesting when compared to pottery from the Jomon period in ancient japan (around 12-10,000 years ago). Jomon pottery is beautiful, bowls and jugs and things all ceramic with fantastic geometric patterns - a lot of chinese pottery in the museum of oriental antiquities here in tokyo has a distinctly mayan feel to it with sharp angles and crazy patterns (sorry, can't describe patterns very well in words). but anyway ten thousand year old jomon pottery is fantastic and very complex, yet the things from later periods are back to crude unadorned bowls and cups like I a child could make with a lump of clay.

so Shroomism, what was Lemuria?


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: redworm]
    #482748 - 12/07/01 06:38 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

this is a little off-topic, but has anyone read the book Atlantis Found by clive cussler? i bought it at the airport a while back, it was pretty good. its his latest book, i think


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: redworm]
    #482756 - 12/07/01 07:36 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Atlantis lies beneath the ice of antarctica.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Traveller]
    #482760 - 12/07/01 07:59 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Lemuria was around at the same time as Atlantis, it was an island of highly spiritual people..except they were more intuitive than the technological people of Atlantis.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: BBin]
    #483236 - 12/07/01 05:30 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I also have heard that Atlantis might be under Antarctica. I saw a show on TV that said there was some sort of bizarre disaster on earth about 10,000-12,000 years ago, caused by the polar ice caps becoming too heavy until they unbalanced the poles or something and the entire crust of the planet sort of shifted. According to the show, this is what may have cause Noah's flood and the loss of Antlantis. The show also talked a lot about unbelievably accurate maps of North and South America that were floating around during the middle ages, way before these continents were allegedly "discovered." I wish I could remember more about what they said, it was a really interesting show.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: champ]
    #483403 - 12/07/01 08:35 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

i had a similar theory.
remember the "canopy theory"? that at one time (before the flood mentioned in genesis) the earth was surrounded by a layer of water vapor.

genesis 7:11 ...and the windows of the heavens were opened (or, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.)

how much of the earth's water was in that canopy?
enough for biblical mention.
could it also have been enough to keep the entire surface of the earth at a regulated livable temperature?
even the poles?

the loss of a canopy would have created an entirely new system of weather on the planet. perhaps one that allowed for the build up of ice on the poles. maybe worse than we have now. an ice age? when was it supposed to have ended? 10,000 years ago? 12,000 years ago? Yeah, that fits.
How far back does our record of mankind go back? 12,000 year old stone tools, cave art, burial rituals. hmm? (why do we all have rituals for the dead?)

who were the atlantians? do we have records from them?
of them?

then the lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. -genesis 6:5

what were the atlantians up to?

for the coming of the son of man will be just like the days of noah. for as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, they were marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that noah enter the ark, and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away... -matthew 24:37-39a

maybe the atlantians were just like us. living life.
i don't think they were any different than any other culture.
if we ever did find a sit to excavate or whatever i doubt we'd find anything "enlightening" about the universe.

that which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. so, there is nothing new under the sun. -ecclesiastes 1:9

of course there may be something in that magic myan calendar that blows my theory to shit.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Axiom420]
    #484059 - 12/08/01 02:43 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

There does seem to be a lot of support for the idea that whatever happened at that time happened very suddenly. The climate just changed all over the earth, and places that had been livable just weren't anymore. The justification of this belief comes from the fact that there are so many frozen prehistorical animals from the same time. And also from the behavior of the world's oceans--growing and sinking and flooding things, which fits in with your theory about the canopy of moisture. I have heard about inland saltwater that was cut off from its ocean, I think maybe the Red Sea is like that.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: redworm]
    #484116 - 12/08/01 03:56 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Puh-lease people! There is only ONE reference to Atlantis throughout history and that is from Plato, who got the story third-hand. The Greeks did not sail anywhere near Japan nor Bermuda.

Any stories written about Atalntis since Aancient Greece are PURE fantasy based soley on imagination.

Are there not any discerning minds on the shroomery or do you guys swallow every story whole?

Yes, once more, Swami is the bad guy.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: champ]
    #484119 - 12/08/01 03:58 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

There does seem to be a lot of support for the idea that whatever happened at that time happened very suddenly. The climate just changed all over the earth, and places that had been livable just weren't anymore. The justification of this belief comes from the fact that there are so many frozen prehistorical animals from the same time. And also from the behavior of the world's oceans--growing and sinking and flooding things




I believe it's called a Pole Shift.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Swami]
    #484120 - 12/08/01 04:00 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for being the bad guy Swami. Your presence keeps things interesting.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Swami]
    #484490 - 12/08/01 11:15 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Again I have to verbally come out in favor of Swami here, as I have in silence for many of his (her?) posts. I read the threads on this board semi-regularly and from time to time even contribute something (usually about dreaming) - but I am frankly amused at some of the things that this board's faithful take as just a given. It is surprising to me, and a little saddening. I know there are a lot of strange things that happen in this world, and I myself believe a strange thing or two, but many of the things on this board (alien/human relations, shadow people, pole shift, 2012) that so many of the faithful swear by are just amusing to me.

Shadow people - I don't have any firsthand experience with this, but on its surface it appears laughable. It is something I would personally not believe until/unless I or someone I trusted implicitly experienced it.

Alien/human relations - I am not even certain there are aliens, and if there are, I don't know that they have anything to do with us here. I think the whole alien/human thing can be attributable to pretty predictable factors.

Pole shit - Shroomism, can you point to any kind of evidence (links, etc) for believing as you do, or is it a point of sheer faith?

2012 - I happen to believe a *lot* of what Terence McKenna said was right on the money, and very accurate observations. Many of the things he writes, I myself believe. But about the whole 2012 thing, I just don't see any strong argument for it. Again, is there a *reason* to believe this to be so, or is it an article of pure faith?

I have to say that, in reading the many threads on this board, I have silently agreed with Swami's cool-headed insistence on grounding yourself in *this* reality or at least getting some kind of evidence for believing something. Now at last, I speak out, and I don't mind to be the "bad guy" either, along with Swami.

But my purpose is not to attempt to stem the discussion; rather to take part interactively in it and try to understand why the more well-spoken but "out-there", in terms of beliefs, among us feel as they do.



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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: cantara]
    #484542 - 12/09/01 12:10 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

While I could point you to hundreds of links and books that carry this information, I have learned that those questioning such beliefs will 95% of the time claim them as unscientific, or not based in reality. Which is fine. I'm not in the business of changing people's minds. A lot of these things are firmly grounded in reality, while others are indeed quite "out there".. The truth lies in the eye of the beholder.
To believe in some of these things is in some ways similar to religion...it requires a faith, and personal experience. Since I cannot give either to anyone, I can only share my opinions and experiences with the hopes of finding others who have had similar experiences.
Arguing about spirituality is about as futile as trying to start a fire underwater. The scientific cry out for proof and facts, and while proof does indeed exist on many levels, it is disregarded as not sufficient, or not real proof. Whatever. The only way one can find such truths is to find them within themselves. Others can show a path to be taken, but it is up to the individual to take the path.
As far as the 2012 thing, the pole shift, aliens, etc.. if you are truly interested and not just trying to a rouse out of me, I am willing to discuss with you the reason for my beliefs and can also show you many websites, books, and other people who share this belief. To me, it is no longer a belief and has become a truth. This is due to many personal experiences where beliefs have crossed into reality.
I will say this again, proof exists for the individual. I cannot prove to you or anyone else what I know to be true. Truth is subjective.
For example lets say that I say that crop circles are evidence of alien life visiting our planet. Someone arguing could say that it is just people with boards making them. Then I would say well how do they cover 400 yards of crops, making perfect figures, bending all the crops at 90 degree angles, intertwining each grain with others in groups of three, leave trace amounts of radiation, and no evidence of ever being there? Then the person could say oh its very easily done with a satellite imagery. Then I would say well how about certain crop circles which were not there one moment, and 5 minutes later a 300 foot wide crop circle appears outside a castle with no one ever seeing anyone entering or leaving...such as this one:


The argument could go on forever, if someone believes they are right then they are, no questions.
Anyone who believes in God is basing this belief purely on faith. Sure you may have had experiences in which God spoke to you...but can you prove it to me?

Semantics aside, I think the best way we can come together (the out-there people and the scientific people) is to find a middle ground in which we can both subjectively relate to one another without being insulted or attacking one another. It is assumed often that I have no basis in reality, or shun science. Nothing could be further from the truth. I myself was a very scientific person growing up, I questioned everything that could not be proven with equations or pictures or scientific evidence. Over time, I began to discover my spiritual side and began to see the things that can only be proven to the individual. The unseen things, the unspoken words. The things that are felt not seen. While I do not agree with all science says, I do not completely shun it. Science is our way of dissecting nature. Spirituality is our way of living with it and letting things just 'be'. If a middle ground could be reached, our world would be forever changed.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: ]
    #484577 - 12/09/01 12:37 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I *am* quite interested to discuss it with you, and am not simply trying to get a rouse out of you. I have said, honestly, that the things you state, I don't believe myself, but that does NOT preclude me from discussing why/how you feel as you do, nor does it lessen my interest in why you feel that way. If people never changed their beliefs the world would be a pretty static place. I might yet agree with you. I *am* in fact interested in why you feel as you do.



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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: ]
    #484603 - 12/09/01 01:01 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

You should start a new thread and brief us on crop circles... i've seen a lot of pictures but read very little information, i'm very interested.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Anonymous]
    #484608 - 12/09/01 01:06 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

My problem with putting faith in crop circles as indication of something paranormal is that I have seen TV specials featuring interviews with guys who confess to have done these things. Granted, obviously because one team of guys are hoaxers and some of the circles are hoaxes, doesn't mean they all are, but specifically on the subject of crop circles I would be interested to see the details of 1-2 of them that, for a combination of various reasons, seem impossible to have been hoaxed.



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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: cantara]
    #484628 - 12/09/01 01:28 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

check the new thread. It has some pictures of genuine circles, as well as links which will bring you to hundreds of links about crop circles, the second link is all about showing the fake crop circles from the real ones. There are facts involved which could not be done by human hands.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: ]
    #484908 - 12/09/01 11:47 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

While I could point you to hundreds of links and books that carry this information,
As I have previously pointed out, the sheer amount of printed matter, does not equate to truth. There was nothing written on Atlantis for several thousand years until one imaginitave author made a best-seller in the mid 1800s, then everyone jumped on the bandwagon. There have since been hundreds of such books published. Not one of those books is based on any sort of historical evidence


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Swami]
    #485131 - 12/09/01 04:35 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

There was nothing written on Atlantis for several thousand years until one imaginitave author made a best-seller in the mid 1800s, then everyone jumped on the bandwagon. There have since been hundreds of such books published. Not one of those books is based on any sort of historical evidence

And I suppose you have read all of these books?

As I have previously pointed out, the sheer amount of printed matter, does not equate to truth.

Nor have I ever stated that quantity of printed material equates to truth. What does make sense, is to read them first and then form an opinion. You cannot judge something which you know nothing of.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: cantara]
    #485198 - 12/09/01 06:09 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

about the 2012 thing, its not some thing of faith, its 'simply' a matter of complex mathematics, exact astronomy, harmonic calendar reform, and an extrapolation on the observation of the progression of the history of human time. There are many arrows that lead towards this particular point in time (and space?) At the rate of acceleration we are on right now, it is not that unlikely to foresee a point in time where what Is will be beyond anything we can currently imagine.
For example, for me virtual reality was just computer graphics with goggles and gloves and stuff like that. But recently someone was telling me about the advances we have been making into mapping the areas of the brain. With this knowledge we can pinpoint all our experiences and connect it with the activities of our brains, and by using rays of light going inwards through our eyes, we can induce sensations of really touching something, feeling something, seeing smelling something. This dramatically changed my notion of what virtual reality could be.
Just imagine the sheer magnitude of novelty which is being unfolded with each passing day, imagine the untold bilions who are adding to this progression at any given moment, realise the factor by which this is multiplying over time. Then, its not really that hard to imagine the possiblity of reaching a culmination point,an apex, nexxus, shifting a transition towards transformation and full realisation of our true potential, a point from which everything will flow forth again, and if we are ready we will have the choice to choose whether or not we will have a choice. Ahem, ok that is somekind of faith.
about all that other stuff, of course, its interesting, amusing, sometimes even slightly insightfull, but in itself shares no real connection with thruth if we do not remain free from being absorbed by it -trying to be as objective as humanly possible, of course. Some areas of knowledge dont impart you with any more wisdom then ignorance does, and some things are just not within our reach of comprehension at our current state of evolution. (i mean evolution of soul, spirit and mind, not physical biological evolution)
To me all these possibilities and beliefs share only the vague reflection of what is really there, that which stands at the source of all. It is beyond our ability to consciously understand in terms of thought and meaning, for we are bound to our 3rd dimensional existance. Of course we can explore beyond these higher realms with our abstractions and thoughts and take or 'download and translate' from it possibilities and ideas, yet they will contain only our interpreted reflections on what is truly there. We cannot relate to it directly so we wrap it up in metaphorical and mythical beliefs, we draw the images of what we think to be there. Yet we should always remember that these images are there only for us to come to a closer understanding, if we lose ourselves into actually believing the images instead of what they portray then all connection to thruth is lost. We are nothing but Cosmic triggers.
Of course i am a galactic agent working for humanity to become part of the federation, each day bringing a new mission. Of course i know and feel the informations being sent to us from everywhere everywhen in this universe because now & here on earth is where the culmination of our story is taking place. For sure i receive the light from the stars and decode it through my intentions and actions in my conscious life, working together with incarnated souls from the pleiades, sirius, and from anywhere in this universe. Why not devote all i experience to krshna. Or smoke to come closer to shiva. Of course do i carry inside me the light of christ and love for god Infinite compassion. Indeed am i a warroir of light fighting against the darkness that is ignorance. Of course am i a dreamer of illusions in an illusion of a dream. A blue overtone storm, a snake, an air elemental gemini.
But i am also just a human being, real, existing right here right now, trying to survive, trying to be in harmony with the world that surrounds me, using every piece of information i can find, trying to remember all the wisdom i can grasp, and it is right there, waiting for us to use it. Complex religions, millenia old, old knowledge lost for ages but translated into new comprehension, remembered wisdom. We must choose and use anything which speaks to us with a feeling of remembrance so we can compile from the sum total of human knowing a world view which will bring us closer to healing and fullfillment. Everyone can create their own images, because everyone will perceive this from their own unique point of view, but the fact that we dont all agree on the specific image is irrelevant, we are all working towards the same end/beginning. (like previously stated, discussions about the specifics of the particular images can be interesting amusing, entertaining, even insightfull, but their only importance is the exchange of imagery and information that takes place within and through these discussions. Agreement is actually totally irrelevant, nobody gains anything by 'winning' an argument, or surrendering to someone elses view on this and that) We are as yet unable to see the bigger picture which is being created by all our subjective images. This multifaceted crystaline thoughtimage is the closest thing to thruth we in our human manifestations can come to. Indra's net. A collective creation of existance, the matrix of human reality.

but i digress ..phew, where the hell was i going with all this? uhm, anyway hope it meant something to you reading this..


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: BBin]
    #485464 - 12/09/01 10:57 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

BBin

I understand and agree to a large extent, it's clear without deep analysis needed that humanity is heading toward *some* kind of a change - some kind of a quickening is happening. The pace of change itself is increasing. I don't argue with that, and I don't know if it'll happen in 2012 or not. But the impression I get from a lot of the posts on this board are that the 2012 "thing" will be some kind of wholesale rearranging of our reality, and that it will be driven by engines more "transcendent' than just our technology and its rate of increase. Shroomism has tied in the pole shift of 2003 to it, and has said that the pole shift of 2003 will be a first step toward something which culminates in 2012. Well, what causes the 2012 anomaly? Is it technology, or is it something completely other? The technology angle I don't have any problem agreeing with - though 2012 seems a little soon, but maybe not - but the others, I am asking openly, What is the evidence for it, why do you (this is a generic You, not "you, BBin") believe as you do that causes you to make the statements to this end?





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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: ]
    #485471 - 12/09/01 11:05 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of these things are firmly grounded in reality, while others are indeed quite "out there".. The truth lies in the eye of the beholder.

Not even close. Belief may be in the eye of the beholder, but truth is independent of the observer. Any specific Crop Circle is either a hoax or it is not. There is no fuzzy middle ground where two groups come together and both are partially right.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: champ]
    #485693 - 12/10/01 04:29 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

I also have heard that Atlantis might be under Antarctica. I saw a show on TV that said there was some sort of bizarre disaster on earth about 10,000-12,000 years ago, caused by the polar ice caps becoming too heavy until they unbalanced the poles or something and the entire crust of the planet sort of shifted. According to the show, this is what may have cause Noah's flood and the loss of Antlantis. The show also talked a lot about unbelievably accurate maps of North and South America that were floating around during the middle ages, way before these continents were allegedly "discovered." I wish I could remember more about what they said, it was a really interesting show.





Sounds like a book I read once. It was very good. Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock

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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: cantara]
    #485703 - 12/10/01 04:50 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

Pole shit - Shroomism, can you point to any kind of evidence (links, etc) for believing as you do, or is it a point of sheer faith?





I believe the strongest evidence is in the study of iron ore. In certain areas there are large iron ore deposits. Scientists have found that the direction of the magnetic allignment within this ore changes drastically between certain layers. This drastic change indicates the possibility of the Earths magnetic poles shifting.

http://archaeology.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_archaeomagnetic.htm?iam=dpile&terms=magnetic+pole+alignment

http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa032299.htm

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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Swami]
    #485705 - 12/10/01 05:06 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

In reply to:

A lot of these things are firmly grounded in reality, while others are indeed quite "out there".. The truth lies in the eye of the beholder.




Not even close. Belief may be in the eye of the beholder, but truth is independent of the observer. Any specific Crop Circle is either a hoax or it is not. There is no fuzzy middle ground where two groups come together and both are partially right.





Sounds like a philosophical difference. I believe the truth cannot be perceived in whole by our mind due to our limitations of understanding. If the semantics of our understanding are different it is possible for two people to be agreeing in difference and not know or understand. Yet in truth they both may be understanding simularities.

This may bring us to the difference of essence and existance. If we exist and try to understand in terms of essence (such as truth) aren't we speaking in a language of which we do not fully understand? And the converse would also be true.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Joshua]
    #485795 - 12/10/01 10:00 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like a philosophical difference. I believe the truth cannot be perceived in whole by our mind due to our limitations of understanding. If the semantics of our understanding are different it is possible for two people to be agreeing in difference and not know or understand. Yet in truth they both may be understanding simularities.

Dear Jesus, more doublespeak! Philosophical difference? What are you babbling about?

This is not an outlook on life. Any specific Crop Circle was either constructed by a human or it was not. Period.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Swami]
    #485873 - 12/10/01 12:31 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of these things are firmly grounded in reality, while others are indeed quite "out there".. The truth lies in the eye of the beholder.

Not even close. Belief may be in the eye of the beholder, but truth is independent of the observer. Any specific Crop Circle is either a hoax or it is not. There is no fuzzy middle ground where two groups come together and both are partially right.



I think perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying. When I said truth lies in the eye of the beholder I was reffering to the 'new age beliefs' in general, not crop circles. Crop circles are either made by humans or they are not.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: redworm]
    #486975 - 12/11/01 05:12 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Land which rises or disappears under the sea during severe pole shifts almost invariably inspires legends, and if the land is inhabited or frequented during hunting expeditions, living patterns of the survivors are dramatically disrupted.

Atlantis was land near the current continent of Europe, which was pulled into the Atlantic during the continental rip that accompanies violent pole shifts and thus disappeared dramatically under the sea. This demise was assisted by extraterrestrials, who took advantage of the natural cataclysm to adjust the balance in spiritual orientation influencing developing human spirits, in line with a determination by the Council of Worlds that such an adjustment was needed. Atlantis had been essentially invaded by the giant hominoids from the 12th Planet, who prior to the quarantine that is now in effect were considered simply another hominoid race within your Solar System. Interactions between humans and these hominoids were allowed to proceed without interference, but increasing slavery of humans by these giant hominoids was tripping the balance so that humans were less and less free to choose their orientation based on their true feelings and increasingly influenced by feelings of helplessness. Thus, an adjustment was required.

Lemuria was land on the other side of the world, in the Pacific, which without interference slipped under the waves during a similar pole shift. As with most pacific lands, Lemuria was inhabited by the easy-going peoples of the South Pacific. Thus where the legends about Atlantis are centered around the relative strength and power that Atlanteans had, the legends about Lemuria center around their peaceful outlook. Atlanteans, being the giant hominoids which like humans today had technology, including the use of crystals for communications, seemed god like, and thus the destruction of that land is surmised to be by their own hand. Lemurians, great in number as the land was more than the scattering of islands that exist in the Pacific today, have been deified as a special spiritual race, and all manner of benefits to occur should they somehow return. As is often the case, these lands, in death, are more than they were in life.


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Re: Atlantis found? [Re: Silent_One]
    #497171 - 12/20/01 07:32 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I just finished wayching a show on the disocery chanel or TLC..whatever. But there is an archeologist who is convinced that South America is Actually Atlantis...of course he had a bunch of facts and figures to back up his opinion, and many of them were very convincing. Sorry I'm being pretty vague with the info, but I'm beat...


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