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 babyshroom
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 Cold Shocking 
#399776 - 09/21/01 07:28 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been struggling to get some eq cakes to pin with no luck, and during my quest for answers, I was told to try cold shocking. I did throw one cake in a smaller terrarium in the fridge for a day, but haven't seen any progress yet.
At the same time, I threw some new b+ cakes in the fridge, and birthed them the next morning. 24 hours later, I find the beginning of pinning on one of the cakes.
Compared to the nearly 2 weeks I've been struggling with the eq's, I'm was shocked, to say the least!
I'd like to get some input on cold shocking for future reference, especially from some experienced growers.
Do most growers cold shock? If so, for how long? Afterwards, what is the typical time frame for pins to appear? Do your answers to the above questions change from strain to strain?
I am planning on starting some hawaiians this weekend, and have 3 more strains coming - (thanks, ralph). I'm hoping the little pins I saw this a.m. are the beginning of some shroom success for me, and I want to stay on the right track.
I haven't seen a lot of talk on this subject lately, so maybe it will help other inexperienced growers, as well.
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 Re: Cold Shocking [Re: babyshroom]
#399798 - 09/21/01 08:49 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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The temp your colinization chamber should be about 84 degrees. Moving them into a fruiting chamber at room temp of about 72 should be enough of a temp drop. Make sure to give lots of fresh air at this point. Should see something in a few days.
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Re: Cold Shocking [Re: ]
#399805 - 09/21/01 08:56 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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...and humidity! Dont forget the humidity!
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babyshroom
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My colonization chamber (a closet) stay 80-82, and I've had really good luck in there so far. My room temp at this time of year is only a couple of degrees lower. I'm in Florida, and every degree I lower my house raises my electric bill about 5%. I can't afford to take it to the low to mid 70's. How do people in my situation get the temp in their grow chambers lower?
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puscle
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Re: Cold Shocking [Re: babyshroom]
#399834 - 09/21/01 09:37 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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We don't. Cold shocking isn't needed for cubensis. Waiting for invitro pins will save you time. Otherwise, learn to case.
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fiddler4u
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Re: Cold Shocking [Re: babyshroom]
#399964 - 09/21/01 12:45 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok bud...
Invitro pinning is not that helpfull as it takes the life away of your substrate. Your shrooms are taking water out of the substrate to make shrooms while their in the jar....not very good if you ask me. Later on when it's important to grow as many as you can some only a fraction of course has been wasted on growth inside jars.
I cold shock the EQ's all the time...and it is helpfull! Case them first, and allow the mycl. to take over the casing. Once that stage is done, put them in a fridge or the coldest spot in your house for 38-40hr. Then bring them back into your terr. w/ all the right conditions. You'll do fine after that...
I will see progress within 2 days...tops!
So you see cold shocking can benifit any type of shroom you plan on doing research on. It's natural in a way (to a certain degree). The reason you leave them in the dark to col. your jars is also natural. When they see light and a suddon change of temp. they relize they made it, and it's time to fruit.
Cold shocking is just that... shocking with extrem temp. drop.....you know...just in case their stupid..hehe :)
However i wouldn't put the jars in the fridge...case, let mycl. take over, then cold shock.
Also if you plan on putting your casing in the fridge, make sure you clean your fridge very well.
good luck.
P.S. watch who you take advice from...some people like to talk, but have know idea what they are talking about.
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babyshroom
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Re: Cold Shocking [Re: fiddler4u]
#400632 - 09/22/01 06:22 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well crap. Now that one sweet little pinning cake looks stalled, as well. It has got to be my humidity. This sucks. I live in Florida - we have enough humidity for the whole friggin' planet. All I want is my fair share, but apparently I can't get it above 85. I thought the cold shocking was my answer.
I want some mushrooms, damnit!!!
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Re: Cold Shocking [Re: babyshroom]
#400683 - 09/22/01 08:40 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Air exchange is your answer - cold shocking can be tried if a casing/cake is being stubborn - as can a little light. Stalled pinning could mean that there is too much c02 and not enough air exchange... (Am i right here Puscle?)
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