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Offlinebabyshroom
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EQ's, no progress since birth
    #398077 - 09/19/01 09:30 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Looking for insight and advice....
I birthed 3 EQ cakes 8-9 days ago. At first, I had what I
believe was a humidity problem, my terrarium wasn't air
tight. Rectified that with some weather stripping, then
stuck the terrarium outside in when it was raining. Got
my humidity up, and have been able to maintain visible
humidity for the past 4 days. At that time, I also moved
1 of the 3 cakes into a smaller container, very much
along the lines of the Poor Man's, just for comparison.
These cakes do not seem to be doing anything. I have
read that EQ's can be stubborn. Is it too late for me to
try some type of cold shock to get them moving, or am
I being too impatient?
I also have some B+ 1/4 pint jars that are ready to be
born - should I cold shock those, as well? If so, do I
do this by just throwing the jar in the fridge? Lid tight,
lid loose? I have not seen much on cold shock teks,
so I'm a little stupid in that area.
Thanks!!!



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Re: EQ's, no progress since birth [Re: babyshroom]
    #398113 - 09/19/01 11:52 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

throw your whole terr. in the fridge....if it will fit. Make sure your fridge is clean. I do this all the time.....but i case. So i just throw the case (covered with tinfoil) in the fridge for38-40 hr.
Take'em out and put back in the terr. at normall temp., humidity, ect.

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Re: EQ's, no progress since birth [Re: babyshroom]
    #398224 - 09/19/01 03:38 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

EQ's are very stubborn. Afoaf got em to pin in the poor mans terranium just two or 3 cakes out of eight. Then He cased them and no more pins again they were very stubborn and dissapionting to work with so he says.Try Thai ks and Mazatapec if you want something that will pin no matter what!
If you go with mazatapecs get em from T.H.E. I beilive there isolates are better:)

Hope it works out for ya



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Re: EQ's, no progress since birth [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #398248 - 09/19/01 04:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Get rubbermaid container, put moistened perlite about a inch on the bottom of the rubbermaid. Put some dry vermiculite on the lids when they are upside down. Put the cake on top of the dry vermic, then run a little water on the dry vermic to soak it. then place those cakes, which are on the lids on top of the perlite. Put the lid on, DO NOT make it airtight!!! Then put in light and fan once or twice a day.

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Re: EQ's, no progress since birth [Re: TreeofLife]
    #398371 - 09/19/01 06:44 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I don't want it air tight? I thought the semi-loose lid was the reason I couldn't get my humidity up. I bought a hygrometer today, just put it in and I'm waiting to see what it says. I took the smaller terrarium and popped it in the fridge, and also took a couple of my b+ jars and popped them in as well.
I have been fanning the larger terrarium 2-3 times a day, and the smaller one 4-5 times. They're both getting plenty of light, and their temps are between 72 and 76 degrees every time I check them.
Should I remove the weatherstripping? If so, how to I keep the humidity in there?



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Re: EQ's, no progress since birth [Re: babyshroom]
    #399059 - 09/20/01 01:37 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

The perlite keeps it giving off continuous humidity, so you need the lid cracked for air exchange.

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Re: EQ's, no progress since birth [Re: TreeofLife]
    #399134 - 09/20/01 02:52 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well, my hygrometer is showing 85%, in both terrariums.
Planning on trying the calibration thing this evening, since
I did buy only a cheapie lizard type at the pet store - 8.99.
I'm still seeing no change in my cakes. I ditched my BIG
terrarium, and went with a smaller 11 qt Rubbermaid
container last night, along with the little poor man size
Rubbermaid I just pulled from the fridge. I previously
believed that humidity would be visible, but after MANY
hours of searches through the archives, I have now
stumbled upon info that leads me to believe that very
high humidity may NOT be visible on the lid and walls
of the terrarium. Is this true?
I have a digital camera, so tonight I'm going to pull my
cakes out and try to get some nice clean pics...maybe
some of you veterans will be able to tell me shed some
light on my problem with the aid of a visual.
I birthed 2 B+ cakes this a.m., in case my problem is
with the strain, rather than the setup. My searches did
lead to several posts stating that EQ's are sometimes
hard to get pinning.
Most frustrating is that I fostered out 2 of my babies to
friends. They are both using poor man type setups, 1
with a little perlite, the other with wet paper towels.
Their cakes have both developed puffy white growth
all over, and mine look the same as when they were
born. One of my foster children does have pins, some
of which happened invitro, but others that have since
appeared. One of my cakes did have 3 little pins
invitro, which have done nothing since birth.
During innoculation, I loosened my lids and allowed
more air exchange than either of my friends did, and
my cakes now look dry to my (very) untrained eye.
If my hygrometer is correct, and I am only achieving
85% humidity, will my poor cakes ever perform?
I'm beginning to wonder if I should concentrate on
casing instead. My research leads me to believe that
casing does better with a little less humidity. Is this
correct?
Thank you to all that have replied, I am taking all of
your advice seriously. I am damned determined to get
the hang of this hobby. I have Hawaiians coming behind
the B+, and 3 more strains on their way, so I am not
giving up.



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