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OfflineZedd
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Liberty cap? (PIC)
    #390042 - 09/10/01 07:52 AM (23 years, 6 months ago)

Today I was walking in a field looking for Psilocybe Semilanceata.
Are these liberty caps?
Some of them grew straight from a cow dung.
I live in Sweden by the way and it's been raining alot for the last couple of days.

Thank you!





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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Zedd]
    #390052 - 09/10/01 08:03 AM (23 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not very familar with Ps. semilanceata, but I'd say you have a mixed collection there, and possibly a few libertys in there too. Check for seperable pellicle, purple/brown spore print, and any signs of possible bluing reaction. I'm sure theres another lib picker in here somewhere that could help you out more than me.

Happy hunting :)


LK,

Edited by Lizard King on 09/10/01 09:05 AM.



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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Lizard King]
    #390070 - 09/10/01 08:21 AM (23 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, a few of those look like liberty caps. The one in the top right-hand is probably a liberty cap. The others, ?.
Stay cool!-Levi7.


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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Levi7]
    #390160 - 09/10/01 11:16 AM (23 years, 6 months ago)

nope. not one of those is even a psilocybe, youve got a bunch of panaeolus sphinctrinus there, looks like one MIGHT be pan. Papillonaceus. but i doubt it. sorry.

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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #390172 - 09/10/01 11:32 AM (23 years, 6 months ago)

Thats what I was thinking mithch, they looked like a type of panaeolus, a long shot would be a faded psilocybe thats lost the striate gill marks in the margin. Then I looked at the stems and they just look way to red and Panaeolus like to be a psilocybe. Plus most of them were found growing directly from cow dung, which from what I hear is rare for semilanceata.

Edited by Lizard King on 09/10/01 12:34 PM.



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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Lizard King]
    #390194 - 09/10/01 12:14 PM (23 years, 6 months ago)

So...
Do they contain any psilocybin or other psychoactive substance?
Are they poisonous?
Thanks for the replies!
:)

Edited by Zedd on 09/10/01 01:29 PM.



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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Zedd]
    #390240 - 09/10/01 01:14 PM (23 years, 6 months ago)

they are not active

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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Zedd]
    #390758 - 09/10/01 09:31 PM (23 years, 6 months ago)

Like the other folks said, Panaeolus campanulatus/ sphinctrinus species complex. Common on dung, not poisonous, not active.

But keep looking in those cow fields. Look in the tall grass at the low, soggy end of the field after it's rained a bit more. Liberty Caps supposedly grow throughout northern Europe, including Sweden, so persist & you might get lucky!


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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Zedd]
    #393474 - 09/13/01 03:19 PM (23 years, 6 months ago)

i agree none ,but nearly, stay in the same fields ,very common
with our little friends ,look more for the same look but with i would describe as a pert nice shaped nipple on top
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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: Zedd]
    #408334 - 09/29/01 01:27 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

The grey ones in the top right and bottom left look like Panaeolus campanulatus and sphinctrinus. The umbonate, two-tone brown one on the left looks like Panaolina foenisecii. These are all inactive but do produce tryptamines like serotnin Liberty caps dont just grow in cow fields, and I have never seen one grow out of dung - they certainly arent coprophilic. You are more likely to find them on lawns and in parks etc..



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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: mm.]
    #408449 - 09/29/01 05:26 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

well you seem to know your shit,but if someone would
instruct.me in lay person terms ,how to post pics, to a not so computer bright spark,i feel i could be a great help to
this community,


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Re: Liberty cap? (PIC) [Re: mushymuncher]
    #408609 - 09/29/01 09:05 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Well on monday i will be able to post the pics i took today, of the first ones I found this season. mushymuncher - just click the 'put pictures in this post' link under the subject line when you post.



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