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OfflinePogo
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How to save the US educational system:
    #385950 - 09/05/01 12:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

When my regime comes to power, this is what I'll do...
They always talk about national averages and whatnot, and frankly I don't know shit about what they mean, but I figure the only reason kids don't do well in school is because they don't try. I admit I went to private school my whole life, so maybe the conditions are as bad as the media makes them out to be, but I doubt it. The oppurtunities are right in front of them, but kids don't care about longterm benefits of future work. To make them better, for every year their national test scores improve they get days off the end of the school year. I figure that 2 days for math and 2 days for english seems reasonable. With that idea, starting in first grade, they could have a total of 48 days less school by senior year in high school. That's a hell of alot of time off, and It would be something to work for. Of course if they go down, they'll have to have time added back on, but I stand by my idea as a general good one. Of course all the logistics would have to be worked out in one way or another, but I stand by my idea.



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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: Pogo]
    #386144 - 09/05/01 09:07 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

your asking people of today to take responsibility and that's not P.C.. I say if you don't pass then you fail.....someone needs to sell me my big mac

Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....


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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: Pogo]
    #386158 - 09/05/01 09:33 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, you're obviously upset about the US educational system. If you don't like it then vote like I do, vote republican. We want to make sure that no child is left behind. We want to make sure that every child has a choice as to what school their parents can send them to. We want school vouchers so that all our nation's youths can go to decent private or religious schools. No child should be forced to attend a failing school. We want school choice and school vouchers is the best way to do it. Once the children have a good foundation in good schools they will want to go to college and be doctors and lawyers. No child is predestined to be a failure. And it is our obligation as good citizens to make sure they can get a good education.

So vote republican and bring hope into the lives of all our nations children.

Edited by Rail_Gun on 09/05/01 08:34 AM.



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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: Innvertigo]
    #386761 - 09/06/01 03:24 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i have to agree with you on this one innvertigo, its your fault if you fail, and you can always do better later. I, myself, was a downright awful high school student, because i didn't give a fuck, and didn't have any ambition. but there's nothing stopping me from going to a state school, getting good grades, and transfering to a better school. i just think they should give everyone as many chances as they want, and if you have the energy, you do.



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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: MrKurtz]
    #386866 - 09/06/01 08:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I had a 2.0 in high school. I hated it because i had to go. In college through 6 years of college (bach, mast.) i ended with a 3.9. so i know what your talking about

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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: Pogo]
    #388122 - 09/07/01 06:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

How to save the US educational system:

Raise taxes.



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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: Kid]
    #388335 - 09/08/01 12:08 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Raise taxes huh? Spoken like a true socialist, Kid.

FYI- Dumping money on education doesn't work.

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Re: How to save the US educational system: [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #388511 - 09/08/01 04:38 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Raising taxes does too work. It gets better teachers, better facilities, better textbooks, and everything else. In Hudson Ohio, the town where I grew up. Our school district was always in the top 5 in the state. And that was because a levy never failed. But Hudson was a rich town, population of about 30,000, average income around 80,000. We had the best teachers, best students, best everything. If Hudson had been Cleveland, a city that always votes against levys then the schools would have suffered, and deservedly so. Raising taxes does effectivly work to make our public schools run better. Citys that have large levys that consistantly pass are testament to that fact.

I believe that schools should be funded at the local level. That way towns that choose to spend more don't have to pay for a city that chooses to vote against every levy and thereby choose to have rotton schools. The communities that vote against levies consistantly choose to have failing public schools, and because of their cheapness they deserve failing public schools. But the children don't deserve failing public schools. The kids are just caught up in their poor parents bitterness.

School vouchers is a better way to deal with the situation than mindlessly raising taxes on a state and federal level. School vouchers gives school choice. The choice to opt out of the public schools that the community always votes against. Why should a good parent want to send their child to a failing public school that the public enjoys shitting on and voting against when there are thriving private schools around them? They shouldn't. The innocent children shouldn't have to suffer for the folly of the bums and losers that vote against them in the community in which they were born into. Children are our most important natural resource and we need to adaquetly develope that resource in order have a better tomarrow.

You see, the difference between the republicans and democrats on this issue is a fundimental difference in how they look at it. The democrats want to pour trillions of state and federal dollars into failing public schools that are consistantly voted against in the communities they exist in. The democrats see the answer as increased federal spending when it is a more basic problem than just money. The problem is that the local communities either lavash money on the schools as mine did or they fund them adaquetly, or they vote against them, vote for the schools to fail.

The republicans on the other hand don't believe the answer to all the worlds problems is to raise taxes and pour all of our peoples money down the rathole of failing public education that the local community is hostile to. No child deserves to go to a school that has no support from the community. The best answer to the problem is the one republicans have chosen. And that's school vouchers. It allows school choice and competition. It doesn't raise taxes and it lets children attend better schools with better teachers and get better educatons in the midst of their communities poverty. That is what works, getting kids better educations is what's important. Throwing money at corrupt school boards doesn't do enough to help the real underlying problem. The problem with the community they're in being hostile to their schools and voting against their public schools. Children do not learn well in hostile environments. And school choice provides children with a warm nurturative environment that is condusive to learning. We want to give the children better learning environment than the one they have now. An environment full of good teachers, good students, good textbooks, and lots and lots of people that really care with all their hearts.

So vote republican and vote to bring hope back into to the lives of our nations inner city youth. Vote republican and vote to leave no child behind!



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