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Paying for Education
    #1436316 - 04/07/03 03:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hey libertarians, what about government funding education?

i consider myself a libertarian.... but i do think that one thing the gov't should provide is an education, and everyone should pay tax for it....


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Re: Paying for Education [Re: ]
    #1436353 - 04/07/03 03:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

If the gov provided education then people might think for themselves, and thus be less controlable.  Although if they properly manipulated the educational system.........thats a different story!

Im all for free education, it would make sense.  But its just not going to happen in any beneficial form. :frown:


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Re: Paying for Education [Re: ]
    #1436376 - 04/07/03 03:59 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I believe that we should have free education, but I also think that students should have the choice of where they can go to school. I believe that there should be an option to take your money and attend school in a different district or even attend a private school. I think a little competition would be a good thing for our nations schools.
I think college should still cost money though. Anyone who really wants to go to college can either work hard to get a scholarship or work their way through school. My father did it (he was dirt poor), and he is making me do it (even though he can afford to send me to school) because it builds character and forces me to learn how to work.


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Re: Paying for Education [Re: ]
    #1436382 - 04/07/03 04:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not sure i'm for FREE education but i am for affordable education. I don't want it to be free for the mere fact that the government will have 100% say in what is to be taught there. If there was a way that the education could be free without government intrusions then i'd be all for it. This is one of the only few social programs i would be for.


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Re: Paying for Education [Re: ]
    #1436443 - 04/07/03 04:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Government run schools are the best brainwashing tool stolen tax money can buy.

Instead of just giving everyone an education, why don't we establish accounts for each student in which he/she is loaned money for education. When the indivudal enters the work force, he/she can pay back the money (treat it as a tax deduction 100% applicable to tax liability) borrowed. I find it wrong that childless individuals should be forced by government to pay for the education of other people's children (I have two children myself, so this isn't selfish motivation).


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Edited by Evolving (04/07/03 04:24 PM)


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Re: Paying for Education [Re: ]
    #1436874 - 04/07/03 07:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Absolutely not. The only legitimate function of government is to provide protection from the initiation of force (and by extension, fraud) for its citizens. The use of tax dollars for anything other than police, courts, and military is theft.

As others have already pointed out, education is the very LAST thing you want to leave in the hands of government. I find it amusing that practically every third post lately involves the word "brainwashing", yet these same posters see no contradiction in their staunch support of "free" education.

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