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Offlinemoonrawk
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Coir casing problems - help!
    #377895 - 08/24/01 03:22 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys and gals, I cased 6 cakes last weekend between a lower layer of damp but not wet vermiculite and a top layer of moist but not wet coco fiber (gro-brick). So obviously it's 6 days later and I looked today (luckily the sides are clear but I keep it wrapped in foil so no pins form on the sides) and the mycelium looks like it's grown some but not much and not what I would expect for a week.. all the stuff I have read indicates I should see mycelium poking thru on the surface of the coco fiber, but there's nothing even close that I can tell. What I also want to know is how does the mycelium breathe? I remember my problem with the jars was i had the lids tight and the holes taped and after loostening them the growth picked right back up.. I assume the mycelium must be able to breathe because no documents have mentioned this, but how?? The coir seemed a bit dry today so i misted it good and now it's back in the dark at around 80 degrees. From everything I can tell I am doing things exactly as they should be done.. any ideas?

Thanks in advance!!

Moonrawk

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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: moonrawk]
    #377903 - 08/24/01 03:31 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

seems to sound pretty kosher. give it time though, sometimes my casing takes a while to come up through the casing.

anyways... how thick did you lay the coco-fiber on it? the thicker the more time, of course.

peace out!

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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: protocoldroid]
    #377910 - 08/24/01 03:38 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, hey good question! I forgot to discuss that.. The bottom layer of verm. is about an inch, the top layer of coco fiber is 1 to 1.5 inches depending.. i tried to level the cake chunks as well as I could.. but oviously that's near impossible. I think I probably made it a bit thick.. I guess I'll just keep waiting.. I'm so impatient though. I ate a handful of pins from the cakes when I cased them last weekend and had a magical night out under the stars.

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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: moonrawk]
    #377923 - 08/24/01 03:51 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

an inch to an inch and a half seems a bit thick for your casing layer. that's why it's taking so long. My ex-girlfriend used only a half inch of coir, and her mycelium came through in a week. It'll come, you'll just have to wait for it... no harm done. In fact, it may even help to have such a strong casing in the long run.

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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: moonrawk]
    #378058 - 08/24/01 08:05 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

I definately hear you on the impatience score :) it's soooo easy to get impatient.

yeah, that is a thick casing, but... I agree with the above post -- it's definatley not going to hurt anything, only help.

save with your patience :) sounds like a good night anyways!

this quote comes to mind, for whatever reason "I can resist everything... except tempatation" [whoever said that] :)

peace out!

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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: moonrawk]
    #378085 - 08/24/01 09:22 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

how thick were the crumbled cakes?

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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: moonrawk]
    #378150 - 08/24/01 10:59 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

It's just taking longer because of the thick casing. You don't ever need to make the casing more than one inch deep. However, you'll get mushrooms eventually. It may just take longer.


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Offlinemoonrawk
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Re: Coir casing problems - help! [Re: Shiznitz]
    #379118 - 08/26/01 10:22 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

the crumbs were anywhere from a centimeter across to an inch across, and a couple might have even been a tad bigger.. most were the size of a bigger marble.. like 1/2 inch or so I would guess.. hard to say really.. but I may have also broken up so that it will take longer for the mycelium network to recover...

but, about the breathing thing.. anyone have any idea how the mycelium gets air exchange down there? Seems like it should suffocate..

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