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OfflineNumba9
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Damned grain clumps evertime?
    #371897 - 08/14/01 04:50 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!! I`ve tried Rye berries.... wheat....... and Brown rice.. no matter what I do when I shake the grain it clumps I`ve tried less water... more water... always clumps into a solid mass. Do I wait till it cools completely... warm.... what? any suggestions as to when to shake the jars to separate the grain or recipe amounts of water to grain would be much appreciated. thanks in advance
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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: Numba9]
    #371909 - 08/14/01 04:50 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

1 cup rye 1 cup h2o a pinch of gypsom cover shake
14hrs or so shake and rinse grain out in a colander
put back in jar and PC let cool shake and have at it

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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: Numba9]
    #372220 - 08/15/01 10:50 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing wrong with adding a little vermiculite either.



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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: Numba9]
    #372348 - 08/15/01 03:19 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i always add a little more gypsup to the mix while steeping and then rinsed afterwards. shake while hot if you can.
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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: ALDER_057]
    #372841 - 08/16/01 05:58 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I used to get this until I read about pre-boiling instead of pre-soaking.

You just gently simmer the dry grain in a big pot of water for c.45 minutes. Keep an eye on it and stop boiling as soon as you see any grain splitting. You can check it is done right by eating some - if you like it then the shrooms seem to too! Then take it off the heat, stick it in a culinder and rinse it well with fresh water. Drain it and load your jars. You don't need to add any more water. It gets the moisture levels just right and the rinsing removes the starchy liquid which causes sticking.

Once you've pressure cooked em for an hour or whatever you can stick the pressure cooker under the cold tap which will reduce the pressure to normal in seconds. Open up, grab the jars with a clean towel and give em a good shake to ensure loose grain.

Works every times.



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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: NDK]
    #5800380 - 06/28/06 08:40 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry about raising the dead like this but I had to say something to this.

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you can stick the pressure cooker under the cold tap which will reduce the pressure to normal in seconds




This sounds like a good way to split your pressure cooker in two.


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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: shymanta]
    #5800435 - 06/28/06 08:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

1 gram gypsum for every 200 grams rye grains works for me

210 grams of water for every 200 grams of rye grains

needs to be precise

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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5801784 - 06/29/06 03:47 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Ditto on the cold water thing. That is a good way to break your equipment. Especially the aluminum PCs. The steal ones can probably handle it but not aluminum.

Other than that, it was pretty good advice. I like to bite my seeds as they are hydrating to tell when they are hydrated to my liking.
Don't forget they will soften up more when you PC them, so leave em a little 'chaulky'. You'll know what I mean when you start biting your seeds.  :smile:


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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: cappa]
    #5801950 - 06/29/06 04:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Damn!  A 5 year old thread resurrected. :frown:

Why are people giving out water:grain ratios?  Nobody's used those methods for a good 6 years and they were obviously stupid even back then.


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Re: Damned grain clumps evertime? [Re: fastfred]
    #5803876 - 06/29/06 06:24 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Dunno, I just saw a safety issue and I try to keep the good people here from breaking their shit or themselves.


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