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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: MushroomFriend]
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>But will see will see, will give som BRF bulk a chance someday!

you defenetly gona like it !
colonise faster than grain IMO
so less chance of contam

btw, no matter how I pasterise compost or straw ( 1 hour at 160F, 1 hour at 170F or 6-12 hours at 140-150F, lime pasterisation ) i always end up with trich or other green mold before the third flush, even when i had CACO3.

But brf/verm will dry out ways before it contams (based on my experience)

peace

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: Michael_Ogic]
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IMO you dont need over 3/4" casing..definatly not over 1 inch even if you do go thicker.. 1/2"-3/4" seems to work anywhere from 1-6 inch thick substrate and I'm sure thicker then that..I just havnt tried.

I dont know about all that BRF in bulk think though...seems like a tricky bizz to get right. These two casings to the left are third flush off straw. Pasteurized normal in water and casing mix sterilized (coir/verm with a little CACO3), dunked and recased between flushes. One on the rights just grain.


I did use like 20% rye berries to spawn so perhaps that had an affect but still..I pulled a number of nice flushes. I got another flush off both that was about an ounce, then they just stopped producing.

I rarly get contaminated casings...I do run 2 HEPAs at all times and casings dont usually make it past 3 or 4 before replacment so theres very few green spores floating around..I also just toss jars that are contamed (the whole jar without opening it)...perhaps this could have been the reason for no contams?


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: Michael_Ogic]
    #3698702 -

Dry out? Dunk it! ?

I will see, after 2 or 3 flushes I guess I want to start a new project anyway! :laugh:

I had green mold before teh first flush but I saved some mushies! :thumbup:

And must buy me new verm anyway... :wink: (100L for 11? :thumbup: )


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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3702924 -

>Dry out? Dunk it! ?

I would like to, but i have no refrigerator ..

:frown:

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: scatmanrav]
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>I rarly get contaminated casings...I do run 2 HEPAs at all times

2 HEPA in the growroom or the incubator ?

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: Michael_Ogic]
    #3702942 -

? You dont need a fridge to dunk ?

BTW look at my avatar! My first serious strawcasing! GT :laugh:


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Edited by MushroomFriend (01/30/05 04:18 PM)

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3703044 -

Two in the apartment, one in front of each grow closet.

You can see the models here:


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3710480 -

>? You dont need a fridge to dunk ?

the coldest room i have is between 77*F-79*F

I think that bacteria will thrive at this temperature

Nice strawcasing !
what spawn did you use ? coco/verm casing layer ?

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: scatmanrav]
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I have that same Honeywell QuietCare HEPA,

Its is connected to a inflatable plastic tubbing with small holes on each side
I use it as a air exchange blower for my grow-roo#
Set on a timer (5 min each hour -24/7) on LOW
works like a charm !

nice closet btw !

do you keep it seeled ?
the closet door is not kept open all day, right ?
whats your RH % in this closet ?

peace

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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: Michael_Ogic]
    #3713159 -

Ooww w00t you live in the desert then! :wink: Here I dunk in the bathroom, its between 60-70.

I used WBS, tried rye once but that syringe was not viable. Since then only WBS and I like it!

Casing: 80% peat 20% verm. Just cause peat is little easier to obtain. 20 liter bag at the garden centre. I have a better feeling bout coco coir though. Also it is less acid if I am correct.

I also added some parts (about 10%?) crushed oystershells.......


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Re: Some things I've notice : [Re: ADoobie]
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ADoobie said:
Correct me if I am wrong...but isn't that the idea of sub-strain isolation of nutrient rich substrates...it gives the grower the ability to follow a sub-strain all the way through the process and decide which one was more acceptable to his/her personal preference...did one prefer the yield of sub-strain a over the potency yet smaller size of sub-strain b? Or perhaps the speeding colonization of sub-strain c at the cost of yield and potency? Forgive the poor fellow that has to decide on sub-strain d for it's fantastic looks, perfect fruit construction, but lower yield and lacking potency.

Call me crazy but I think there is so much more to it than which dominates colonization. It's like pitting a brain against a jock. In a battle of muscle the jock has the brain beat. In a matter of smarts, the brain gets a Nobel while the jock serves the drinks.




You may be drunk, but you nailed it right on the head. This is the primary reason isolation (and cloning) is performed. To select for desired genetics and desired performance. A well selected (tested) isolate will out perform a multi-spore grow hands down. The whole casing acts as a single organism, rather than multiple colonies each fighting for, or sharing nutrients...


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