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Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations
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If you read the bible.. you will be as confused as I was with the book of Revelations.. Seems like the approach of 2012 and the new age of Nuclear and climatic shifts are taking place. I mourn the loss of SO MANY LIVES in India and surounding areas.

Edited by 2Experimental (12/27/04 11:20 PM)

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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Just wait until all the sickness and pestilence that come from this flooding starts up next month. There is going to be millions of deaths in that region and it will be quarantined from the rest of the planet


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What it is, is what it is my Brother.
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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: Fucknuckle]
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Wow, a major ecological disaster and all the bible thumpers start screaming "revelations! jesus is coming!". A bunch of people died 'cause they lived on the coast and a huge wave came. Big deal  :shrug:

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: DNKYD]
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what I said has nothing to do with the bible............. That was all you


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: Fucknuckle]
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Sorry, it was meant for 2E and his christian end-times crock.

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: DNKYD]
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Funny........... This is not the only thread you have made such a remark towards me........Not that it matters. But the world is getting pretty fucked up even if I never read a sinlge word of any book. I still would feel as I do

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: Fucknuckle]
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I'm pretty paranoid lately after hearing of this catastrophe. I need a reality check. It's a freaking earthquake, they happen, right? It doesn't mean that the sky is falling, or that the world as we know it is ending, right? Earthquakes have occured since the beginning, so why is everyone (including me) freaking out about this one?

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: MOTH]
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Because in a day when we can predict these things we didn't. With all the war going on and natural disasters are going to feel worse. The fact is that this earthquake has hit the worst place for spread of disease's. The nastiest plagues come from that region over the past 100 years. The fact that the only sickness that has been beaten is smallpox. And they still have it in a freezer. All the massive outbreaks of the past can still happen they just need a incubator. Now they have one :sad:

This feels bad because it is........very bad


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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Perhaps the 255,000 people who died in China in earth quakes in the early 1900's were also a sign of the end times.

This is nothing. Tsunamis, tornadoes, shitsumis all come out of the word work of mother nature. Some days God gets lonely. Other days He does not.

Nothing will happen in 2012. There will never be a rapture, and I'm betting that God isn't going to make another journey into the flesh anytime soon. Chances are he would meet the same fate or end up in a mental institution. Depending whether he pops up in the third world or the first.


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: zahudulallah]
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Don't get me wrong, I am NOT thinking 2012 will be the end.. It is the BEGINING of the end, and now is the begining of the begining..

Ok Ok, it is all lies, this shit is ordinary, etc.. COngradulations, when you are vaporized by the atomic bomb .

Fucknuckle makes some good points though, bible related or not.

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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Everyone only wishes it was the end times because life down here in the physical domain is hell.


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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In earlier times, MANY more people than 23,000 would die due to a large tsunami like this. We are, in fact, LUCKY to have only lost 20,000+ people.

Mourn the dead. Do not turn their deaths into an apocalypse.


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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the tsunami was fucked up...what's even more fucked up is the lack of help that area will recieve because we are too busy fighting each other. this could be a time for humanity to pull together, but I have yet to hear any ideas from anyone. furthermore, we have the technology now to be able to help others with housing and electricity, but why do that when we can just sit on a computer and talk about it.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: Fucknuckle]
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nah the world is ending. Biblical or not biblical. Well i say end of the world but its more like end of the world as we know it.

Just a matter of time before we are all annihilated. Ive been having crazy visions lately about this. I know its coming... and i know theirs many people who will agree with me as well.

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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That kind of earthquake is huge and comes along rarely, but it doesn't mean the world is ending. 

I am in Houston and Houston had snow for the first time in like 50 years.  It snowed somewhere near here and they hadn't had snow in about 100 years.  It was a light gentle snowfall that dropped about a half inch.

The earthquake caused a lot of death and devastation.  The snowfall didn't.  Both rarely happen.  Neither means that it's the end of the world.

Am I making my point?  :shrug:


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: zahudulallah]
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"Everyone only wishes it was the end times because life down here in the physical domain is hell. "

Heaven and
hell are both on earth.

my life is far from a hell.

and yes it is an incredible and mind rupturing frusteration that humanity, in an age when it could unify and progress beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors, when hunger and disease could be vanquished, enviroments saved, peace between nations met, science advanced, knowledge expanded...

we blow each other up like a bunch of fucking testosterone junky baboons.

the only solution that keeps me sane is to detach myself from world politics and focus on the politics of the soul, and the beauty remaining in the world.


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: Moonshoe]
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  That was very well said.  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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On the topic of tsunami's, im reminded of this article:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/08/29/tidal.wave/

just search google for more info.. if this happens the world economy would be pretty fucked..


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: J4S0N]
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People like to think that humans are above nature......I have a feeling that unless we change our ways, this type of thinking will be devastatingly disproved.....it's amazing how many different possibilities for destruction there are. Thanks for the link.


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: MOTH]
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EllemyshShade said:
I'm pretty paranoid lately after hearing of this catastrophe.  I need a reality check.  It's a freaking earthquake, they happen, right?  It doesn't mean that the sky is falling, or that the world as we know it is ending, right?  Earthquakes have occured since the beginning, so why is everyone (including me) freaking out about this one?


The signs that Jesus gave to look for are very obvious in their purpose; to get the ATTENTION of the planet before it is too late. Is it strange that you are paranoid? Is it strange that you are scared? No?

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2 Peter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation .



-not to say anything about your faith.. i know nothing, but the similarities in those phrases are eerie...

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God isn't going to make another journey into the flesh anytime soon.



Who ever said this?  :rotfl:


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: ld50negative1]
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I get the feeling a dent in one's car door would create a far greater emotional response in most American's lives than news on SE Asia.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: CosmicJoke]
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CosmicJoke said:
I get the feeling a dent in one's car door would create a far greater emotional response in most American's lives than news on SE Asia.



Yeh! That's right! Down with Asia! Fuck them damn asians!

That is the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. Look at the world we live in! People close to you get sick and die all the time wars etc. How the FUCK could you NOT be callused? In case you forgot... we are human. It's hard to feel pain for people that are invisible. Yeh it's very sad, but it isn't something I'm going to mope around about like some sort of maniac because guess what?


They're all still dead.


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
In earlier times, MANY more people than 23,000 would die due to a large tsunami like this. We are, in fact, LUCKY to have only lost 20,000+ people.

Mourn the dead. Do not turn their deaths into an apocalypse.


who said anything about apocalypse? Infact most of revelations is about the holy of holies, the 12 tribes, and many other fucked up visions of Paul(i think it was Paul?).. Although we do see the begining of the 'rapture' in the book. Rapture in my terms, a real event that will slowly change and eventualy wipe out the human race(on Earth as we know it, etc,etc)

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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It was John the Baptiser... I think


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: kaiowas]
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kaiowas said:
the tsunami was fucked up...what's even more fucked up is the lack of help that area will receive because we are too busy fighting each other.  this could be a time for humanity to pull together, but I have yet to hear any ideas from anyone.  furthermore, we have the technology now to be able to help others with housing and electricity, but why do that when we can just sit on a computer and talk about it.


Straight up :thumbup: :thumbup: So true, that is why it is so fucked up. I think perhaps every global catastrophe could be the balance of Nature, telling us something. Maybe human activity cause the massive earthquake that killed .25 million people, or maybe it was Nature... either way- what was done?
But what about when we take the place of nature and create human catastrophes.. Clearly every disease and virus is because of humans, clearly every part of global pollution and destruction is attributed to human action... We have become nature, and we are evolved and evolving further at an exponential rate like never before.
What would be the natural end of the Earth as we know it?? Perhaps a collision with a planar body larger than earth itself at high speeds? If the sun died, life would clearly go on, on earth. Man would make fire, and fish until the lakes were deplete, since crops were no longer an option. All trees would be cut down and the planet would be barren of most wildlife.. I wonder if this would be long enough for the evolution of some sort of super night vision, food source for humans.
And what would the Human end of the earth be? The only clear , and not drawn out end of course is a nuclear war.. So what happens in this case?? Clearly in a nuclear war, EVERY place on earth will not be destroyed.. Islands everywhere and in remote parts missed by the bombs there would be human survivors.. But the effects of the fallout would be disasterous.. Probably killing even more.. And what then? it would be back to the beginning.. I would not be surprised if after anuclear war, we saw the Feudal age emerge again on earth... can't wait!

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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Quote:
Dark Star said:
it's amazing how many different possibilities for destruction there are


http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/exitmundi.htm#Gloomy_end_of_world_scenarios


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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: ld50negative1]
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2Experimental said:
who said anything about apocalypse? Infact most of revelations is about the holy of holies, the 12 tribes, and many other fucked up visions of Paul(i think it was Paul?).. Although we do see the begining of the 'rapture' in the book. Rapture in my terms, a real event that will slowly change and eventualy wipe out the human race(on Earth as we know it, etc,etc)




ld50negative1 said:
It was John the Baptiser... I think



The last book of the Bible was written by John, but not John the Baptist. Historically, this book has been attributed to the apostle John.

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Re: Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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2Experimental said:
Straight up :thumbup: :thumbup: So true, that is why it is so fucked up. I think perhaps every global catastrophe could be the balance of Nature, telling us something. Maybe human activity cause the massive earthquake that killed .25 million people, or maybe it was Nature... either way- what was done?
What would be the natural end of the Earth as we know it?? Perhaps a collision with a planar body larger than earth itself at high speeds? If the sun died, life would clearly go on, on earth. Man would make fire, and fish until the lakes were deplete, since crops were no longer an option. All trees would be cut down and the planet would be barren of most wildlife.. I wonder if this would be long enough for the evolution of some sort of super night vision, food source for humans.


earthquakes and tsunamis this size and MUCH LARGER have been happening since the earth existed. what makes you think this is "nature telling us something"?
if the sun went out it would be cold as fuck and everyone would die
but i think the way the sun is supposed to expand and engulf the earth before it dies in like 3 billion years

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Re: 23,000 + DEAD, Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: Moonshoe]
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the only solution that keeps me sane is to detach myself from world politics and focus on the politics of the soul, and the beauty remaining in the world



:sun:  :heart:  :sun:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :smile:


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Re: Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: 2Experimental]
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My apologies! "Revelations" is generally synonymous with "apocalypse".


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Re: Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: trendal]
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its pretty funny that you guys are quoting shit from the bible as if the people that wrote it are somehow prophets and holy men when almost all of them were nothing more than fakes vying for power to feed their ego.

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Re: Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: DankBluntZ]
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DankBluntZ said:
its pretty funny that you guys are quoting shit from the bible as if the people that wrote it are somehow prophets and holy men when almost all of them were nothing more than fakes vying for power to feed their ego.


You knew these people?  :eek: Wow!


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Re: Are we seeing the first stage of the Revelations [Re: DankBluntZ]
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No....they were regular people, with real visions......other people have taken their visions and then began using them to control people.....and this where we are at now.


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