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Pressure cooker disaster
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So...
I bought a $40 pressure cooker and filled it with a little more than an inch of water, put the jars in, turned up the flame and let it sit for an hour. Then I turned the flame off and waited until it was cool enough to touch. At that point I tried opening it only to find that it would not open. I consulted the manual which informed me that the pressure cooker will not open if there is still pressure inside it. Fine, I thought... so I waited a couple more hours. Still wouldn't open.

Long story short: I had to bang the damn thing open with a hammer, only to find no water inside and several of my jars cracked and falling apart. Apparently at about minute 40 the water had completely evaporated (how the hell did it get out?)

Should I put 2 inches of water in next time? I would only be concerned about water boiling up inside the tin foil and onto the top of the lid (that happened last time, even with only 1 inch of water).

I don't understand what I did wrong and how I should do it right the next time. Anyone have any ideas or comments??


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: Plok]
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Quote:(how the hell did it get out?)

Well duh where do you think it went


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: Plok]
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the water turned into steam which came out the little hole in the top where the jiggler sets. Next time read the directions. you are lucky it ran out of water instead of blowing a hole in your ceiling


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: tahoe]
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Perhaps next time you'll read the manual better and not let it all come out in steam.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: scatmanrav]
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Add more water.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said:
... you are lucky it ran out of water instead of blowing a hole in your ceiling


:wink: hahah...


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: Majestic]
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its happend b4 someONE here !


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: Plok]
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Plok said:
So...
I bought a $40 pressure cooker and filled it with a little more than an inch of water, put the jars in, turned up the flame and let it sit for an hour. Then I turned the flame off and waited until it was cool enough to touch. At that point I tried opening it only to find that it would not open. I consulted the manual which informed me that the pressure cooker will not open if there is still pressure inside it. Fine, I thought... so I waited a couple more hours. Still wouldn't open.

Long story short: I had to bang the damn thing open with a hammer, only to find no water inside and several of my jars cracked and falling apart. Apparently at about minute 40 the water had completely evaporated (how the hell did it get out?)

Should I put 2 inches of water in next time? I would only be concerned about water boiling up inside the tin foil and onto the top of the lid (that happened last time, even with only 1 inch of water).

I don't understand what I did wrong and how I should do it right the next time. Anyone have any ideas or comments??


1st, get a real pressure cooker, All American's will last a lifetime.

2nd, put oil around the beveled edge which makes for easier opening, use a flathead screwdriver to gently pry if opening remains tough.

3rd, keep the heat just high enough to maintain the pressure but not enough to keep the weight constantly jiggling. If the weight constantly jiggles, you are losing too much water.

The weight should only jiggle 2-4 times a minute.

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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: boxtop703]
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^^^^^^Good Advice^^^^^^^


Although i used a 40 dollar pressure cooker for a long time, with great success, before i upgraded.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: boxtop703]
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I 1100% agree with TLG..... haunt eBay & get an AA. The BIGGER the BETTER. You see AA 915 - 925's go for under $100 on eBay all the time. Best investment you will ever make in your Shroom life. Nothing to do but watch them sterilize things. No seal to replace. No rocker weight, no steam escapes. They are  :heart: :heart: :wink: EBAY

Next - build buy flowhood. Again, you can find great deals on 24X12 inch hepa filters on eBay, CHEAP. If you don't believe, check this out.  EBAY


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: agar]
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If no steam escapes, how does it regulate the pressure?


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: ticktock]
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The problem might be this...

Once the steam starts to come out, you NEED to reduce the heat until almost no steam comes out. (Steam should not constantly pour out fiercely.) You will know when the setting is right, because you will only see steam rise, not blow, out of the vent.

If the steam stops, then you are at, or lower then the valves pressure. (Turn the heat back up a little.)

For example, my cooker (T-Fel Sensor-2 Pressure cooker)...
1. Turn heat on high with lid off. (It is an all stainless steel pan, it takes a while to heat up.)
2. Wait until water starts to steam.
3. Add jars, and remove excess water with a turkey baster, add water if there isn't enough to cover one finger width of the bottom of the jars.
4. Put cover on, and wait for the safety valve to close. (Mine won't try to pressureize until the water is boiling enough to pop up the initial safety seal.)
5. Wait for steam to pour out of the pressure vent.
6. When steam starts to furiously pour out, I reduce my heat to 25%, Med-Low, Simmer, (3 out of 1-10)... depending on your heat setting descriptions.
7. The vent now slowly starts to reduce to a slow trickle of steam. You are now at your desired pressure... actuall a little above, which is why steam is still exiting. (Lower will make the vent close.) You can drop the temp more until it totally stops, then raise up a little at a time. You can find the ideal setting that way. (Ultimately, it will depend on your room temprature, how fast the pot cools.

You should set your timer from the point that the heat is reduced. EG, you don't count the BUILD-UP time that it took your pressure cooker to build up pressure.

When you are done, 60-120 min later... Turn the heat off all the way, and let it sit under pressure for 16-24 hours... (Even after 24 hours, mine is still luke warm!)

By the way, you may have destroyed your seal... (You melted it?!?) Consult your manual. Most pressure cookers NEED 1/3-1/4 water in the pot. All glass should be suspended off the bottom, by more than a piece of paper towel... (Seen suggested in a TEK, bad idea!), use a wire "Hot-Plate", that they sell at almost any store, or use a "Burner-Cover" plate, with holes punched into it, so air from boiling can get out.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: ticktock]
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An ALL AMERICAN PRESSURE COOKER doesn?t regulate the pressure. YOU DO?.. :wink: heating it up, pressure builds to the desired point (15 or 16 PSI) - then you turn the heat down to the degree pressure stops building & it maintains the desired PSI.

A safety mechanism will allow steam to escape, if pressure gets in the  :eek:DANGER ZONE :eek:. The same safety mechanism toggle can be tripped MANUALY to bleed pressure any time you want.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: agar]
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I like that... That will be my next toy... (I got my pot for $50.00 New, because it had an open box! Originally $100.00, not sure if it actually sold for that price!)


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: agar]
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Ok. With my old mirro, I turn the heat on and walk away. When it starts making a racket, I come back and turn it down, then walk away again. If the heat is too high or too low, I can hear it from anywhere in my apartment.

So, with the All American I'd have to stay with it and watch the gage?
That doesn't seem like an advantage. What am I missing?


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: ticktock]
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With AA PC no steam escapes = no whistle noise = no weight to fool with = no water loss = no funny smells in house = no seal to go bad & yes...... you have to watch it....now & then..... to insure it stays in right PSI range.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: agar]
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Depends on the model.
My (new) 921 has a rocker.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: agar]
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agar said:
With AA PC no steam escapes = no whistle noise = no weight to fool with = no water loss = no funny smells in house = no seal to go bad & yes...... you have to watch it....now & then..... to insure it stays in right PSI range.


Hmm. My Mirro 22 Qt pressure canner has been in active service for about 30 years now. I just paid about $12 for my first replacement gasket. I've run it for over 2 hours when canning meat, without running out of water. It does smell like green beans, or spiced beets, or pickles sometimes. Now days it sometimes smells like rice.

As for that noise, I grew up with it. Fffft...Fffft...Fffft means all is well. With the All American, all would be silent until I forgot to keep a vigil, until that overpressure valve blew. That could cause some stubborn laundry stains  :blush:

To each his own I guess. The AA looks like a really well built machine, and the pressure gage is a plus. Thanks for filling me in on the pressure regulation.


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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: ticktock]
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That release valve he pictured..you will hear steam comming from it if the pressure gets to high. Thats how I listen for my PC too...


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Pressure cooker disaster [Re: Plok]
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Plok said:
So...
I bought a $40 pressure cooker and filled it with a little more than an inch of water, put the jars in, turned up the flame and let it sit for an hour.  Then I turned the flame off and waited until it was cool enough to touch.  At that point I tried opening it only to find that it would not open.  I consulted the manual which informed me that the pressure cooker will not open if there is still pressure inside it.  Fine, I thought... so I waited a couple more hours.  Still wouldn't open.

Long story short:  I had to bang the damn thing open with a hammer, only to find no water inside and several of my jars cracked and falling apart.  Apparently at about minute 40 the water had completely evaporated (how the hell did it get out?)

I don't understand what I did wrong and how I should do it right the next time.  Anyone have any ideas or comments??



one of the silliest questions I've seen yet.
'all this weird gas stuff came out of my pc, and now all the water is gone. WTF?!'


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