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Invisibleasd11
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DMT and Salvia anyone?
    #3469850 - 12/09/04 10:13 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone here mixed the two? Say, smoking DMT and Salvia together, or an Ayahuasca/oral DMT + quid method (or smoked).

I've read elsewhere, these two actually do "go together" well. I haven't read any actual details of what its like though, just that they work good together. Sure sounds quite..mindblowing to me!

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: asd11]
    #3471272 - 12/09/04 03:05 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I've known Sally for over three years now, and in the last year it has become very rare for me to do a solo session. The first time I had a really good breakthrough, about 2 years ago, was while in Amityville (AMT) since then I've tried mixtures on various RC's, beer, mushrooms, Aya, and just recently Kratom.

The Kratom gave me the relaxing (nodding) state i found perfect for a Sally adventure. I would highly suggest it if you have the means.

But back to your question, the Aya as with other Entho's basically give you a much longer duration with way less smoke needed. She has yet to scold me for this, but keep in mind that i've built quite a lot of practice. As always I reccomend being outside next to a small campfire. Fare thee well.


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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: schmutzen]
    #3471284 - 12/09/04 03:08 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i dont think that would be smart to do .. these are not condiments for your big mac


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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: asd11]
    #3472448 - 12/09/04 07:09 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

it seems kind of pointless for me but it's known to be safe...
www.erowid.org


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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: asd11]
    #3474883 - 12/10/04 04:57 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

There's one trip report of that combo on erowid. Seems interesting but not for me  :crazy:

As far as i'm concerned each of them is powerful and immersive enough to satisfy my twisted desires for psychedelia :wink:.

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: schmutzen]
    #3475658 - 12/10/04 11:09 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Oh god! How could you tolerate that. Salvia is so physically uncomfortable i'd consider it to ruin whatever other substance i'm on to consume salvia concurrently.

I sometimes physically feel like i'm chopped in half, or my torso isn't lining up right with the rest of my body.

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: neuro]
    #3476258 - 12/10/04 01:12 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Here are a couple of interesting reports:

http://www.lavondyss.com/donut/j8.html
http://www.lavondyss.com/donut/j9.html

Edited: Oops, wrong link... fixed.

Edited by hellbender (12/10/04 01:39 PM)

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: neuro]
    #3477980 - 12/10/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I have never felt any physical discomfort from Salvia, mental yes, but I had it coming. She has always been good medicene for me. I go into the experience knowing that it won't last long and willing to accept whatever she has to tell me, with the choice of whether or not I want to believe it.

I find the extended experience to be quite enjoyable. It seems to be the only way I receive full blown visions and I'm fully capable of not distracting myself.

On a side note, I always her the voice of a middle to late age Grandmother. But the Kratom mix had a definate Grampa voice...


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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: schmutzen]
    #3480135 - 12/11/04 01:05 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

You're a lucky one, I've met several othres that complain of physical discomfort. My proprioceptive abilities and kinesthesia are all fucked up on salvia and it feels like my body is in weird positions that they're not, or literally as if i've been cut in half and i'm not lining up just right. Mentally it gives me delusions, not even hallucinations. Like for example, I believed i was in the doctors office at the front desk when i was in fact smoking in my friend's garage.

I was plannign on trying it with MDMA then changed my mind incase it would ruin the MDMA, cause i just cdon't like salvia ll that much but i'm a glutton for punishment for some reason.

I get visuals too, but I like 2-Cesque visuals, compared to salvia visuals, sometimes they're true hallucinations like materialized body parts once, or whole cars, i thought a fire truck was parked infront of my house cause i saw it, it was if I had taken datura.

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: neuro]
    #3480183 - 12/11/04 01:16 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I experienced similar effects as you describe from a 5x extract neuro, though it felt as if a more dominant gravitational pull working against the flow was pulling me to the side of room and I get all frantic and nausious

i think the 5x only took me half way there and left me unbalanced and stuck between worlds

Edited by faslimy (12/11/04 01:16 AM)

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: faslimy]
    #3480212 - 12/11/04 01:25 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

yup! and completely undesirable to me. I'm content growing it and sometimes being stupid and trying it again even though i don't like it.

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: neuro]
    #3480260 - 12/11/04 01:37 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

LOL neuro, yeah I had a leaf fall off the other day and just threw it in the pipe for the hell of it, couple hits won't do much I think ... then I feel my brain being pulled sideways, I stand up and walk around in circles leaning toward that side, finally caught up with my brain. LOL, interesting stuff always.


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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: Maverik]
    #3482399 - 12/11/04 04:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

those of you complaining of physical comfort.. i was wondering if you were all trying to move? or stand? or something to that effect.. i lay down for the duration and surrender my body and ive never had one uncomfortable feeling other than my astral body escaping my physical. which is essentially what i asked for in the first place.. anyone ever try grav hits of salvia? that is my next venture


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InvisiblePirate_Zero
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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: neuro]
    #3484415 - 12/11/04 11:02 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

neuro said:
yup! and completely undesirable to me. I'm content growing it and sometimes being stupid and trying it again even though i don't like it.




thats so very true. I have used salvia for 2 years and every time I toke it I swore that would be my last time. haha


I wouldn't mix the 2, plus I don't know how you can smoke DMT and salvia as they both kick in within seconds. its hard enough taking 2-3 tokes of DMT let alone understand to take one more hit of salvia.

my 2 cents.

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Re: DMT and Salvia anyone? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #3488309 - 12/12/04 09:30 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

>> i was wondering if you were all trying to move? or stand? or something to that effect.

Always sitting or laying, moving or standing is just plain dumb.

>>anyone ever try grav hits of salvia?

Yup

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