Home | Community | Message Board

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco Bulk Substrate, Olympus Myco Sterilized Grain Bag for Spawn   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineJordash
Stranger
Registered: 07/10/04
Posts: 22
Last seen: 17 years, 8 months
Salvia nasally?
    #3090052 - 09/04/04 12:34 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Just wondering if anyone knew if Salvia can be used nasally?

Obviously grinded up into a powdered snuff first.

Thought, seeing as tobacco is, why not salvia?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineneuro
Phytophiliac
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/10/99
Posts: 6,633
Loc: Rigel 7
Last seen: 6 months, 9 days
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3090119 - 09/04/04 01:02 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Since it works sublingually it *could* work nasally as both are mucuos membranes, but it would have to depend on how wet your nasal paassages are when you do it. And on top of that (a point that makes my previous point moot anyway) you would need quite a lot of salvia to make it work intranasal anyway, because the amount alone used sublingually is quite a lot.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineWorf
Lt. Commander

Registered: 07/04/04
Posts: 15,663
Loc: Final Frontier
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3090567 - 09/04/04 08:08 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I'd imagine it would be quite harsh on the nose. Plus salvia needs to be heated very hot so that the salvinorin can be seperated from the leaf, otherwise you will only get the salvinorin on the edges of them

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 38,602
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3090607 - 09/04/04 08:40 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I imagine to be messy and not satisfying.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAsco
Explorer of theMind

Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 308
Loc: Montreal
Last seen: 11 years, 10 months
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3090715 - 09/04/04 09:44 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I'd suggest to stick with smoking instead of sniffing stuff for no working reason :P

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMaverik
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 210
Loc: West
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3094039 - 09/05/04 03:37 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Neuro is right the amount of raw Salvia would make it seriously undesirable. You could insufflate pure salvinorin but that would probably be undesirable for being a bit too intense.


--------------------
~ Dead to the Core ~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineWysefool
I AM SKELETON JELLY
Male User Gallery
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 6,643
Last seen: 2 months, 2 days
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Maverik]
    #3094060 - 09/05/04 03:51 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

interesting thought tho


--------------------
]

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineWysefool
I AM SKELETON JELLY
Male User Gallery
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 6,643
Last seen: 2 months, 2 days
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Wysefool]
    #3094063 - 09/05/04 03:52 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I think another good question is whether or not mushrooms could be ingested both nasally and sublingually.


--------------------
]

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLazerouth
Drunkard

Registered: 10/15/00
Posts: 1,091
Loc: England
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3094255 - 09/05/04 06:30 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Why on earth would you want to snort something that can be eaten just fine?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAsante
Omnicyclion prophet
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 87,691
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Jordash]
    #3094575 - 09/05/04 10:05 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

In theory it must be possible, in practice it can hardly produce desirable results, i concur.

1...The likely very large amount needed
2...The herb is loaded with tannins. Most innovative words regarding the Divine Force, copulation and Psalms that never made it into the Bible were invented upon snorting of tannin-rich herbs  :evil:
3...Unpredictable strength, duration and trajectory of effects.

If someone wanted to experiment then I cant stop them no matter what we say so if they really feel the need they should post their finding.

I disrecommend it. Unpleasant, unpredictable and unhealthy.
Salvia: either you hit it or you quid it!


--------------------
Omnicyclion.org
higher knowledge starts here

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleredgreenvines
irregular verb
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 38,602
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: Asante]
    #3094724 - 09/05/04 11:19 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

the idea of insufflating pure salvinorin has the following drawbacks:

1) you will need to finely and carefully crush it to enable any absorption since it is an oily crystal with more resemblance to plastic or wax than to something chelated like cocaine HCL (which is suitable for insufflation), and unlike cocaine it is not soluable in mucous so it will penetrate only exposed nasal mucosa - which could be prepared using Otrivine 10 minutes in advance and clearing the pasages with blowing.

2) you will need to use 10 - 40 milligrams (simmilar or greater than oral) of salvinorin, and you will be unable to predict the effect altogether since you won't know how much or how quickly any of the good dust will arrive at suitably exposed mucosa.

3) if some becomes embedded in mucous and is later released you may have a surprise delayed experience at an unwanted time, like a narcoleptic - maybe even while driving!

4) the same amount applied to a piece of cigarette paper (and later cut up) will provide between 15 and 60 measured doses with high likelihood of satisfaction wrt the intensity and manageability of effects.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJordash
Stranger
Registered: 07/10/04
Posts: 22
Last seen: 17 years, 8 months
Re: Salvia nasally? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3096158 - 09/05/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Only asking as the leaf is way too harsh from a pipe, and the only bong I would have access to would be a homemade one, which generally aren't very good :P

I tried quiding, but it did not work, perhaps I didn't use enough.

Oh well, thanks for the answers anyway.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco Bulk Substrate, Olympus Myco Sterilized Grain Bag for Spawn   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Salvia Divinorum Salvinorin Extraction & Refinement FAQ 6.8
( 1 2 all )
Divinorum 15,341 24 01/02/18 01:24 PM
by Solipsis
* live salvia to salvinorin to blotter PROJECT COMPLETE 7-18
( 1 2 3 all )
ZippoZM 6,147 41 07/20/04 08:42 AM
by redgreenvines
* great salvia extraction guide with pictures ZippoZM 3,299 1 04/18/04 07:13 PM
by LuNaTiX
* Salvia Divinorum a subject at hand. lobo121782 2,434 5 06/29/02 09:13 AM
by lobo121782
* Legal Status of salvia LuNaTiX 914 2 06/08/04 06:22 PM
by EnlightenedFreak
* salvinorin-A Pure 10mg
( 1 2 all )
Fluxburn 4,708 21 09/13/05 12:50 PM
by lsdhead420
* Grandfather Clause for Salvia Plants? Salvinorin 1,436 11 05/07/07 06:30 AM
by shruman
* artificial lighting for salvia Divinatory 1,018 7 05/28/07 01:27 AM
by Salvinorin

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Mostly_Harmless, A.k.a
867 topic views. 1 members, 6 guests and 13 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.02 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 12 queries.