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 LOBO
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 Zone 5 Dmt source plant? 
#570312 - 03/05/02 06:52 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi I live in a zone 5 (cold), is there any plant rich in dmt, like mimosa hostilis that I can grow in my temperature zone?
Most of them are tropical.
Thanks.
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gnrm23
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 Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: LOBO]
#570393 - 03/05/02 09:22 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Desmanthus & Lespedeza species may have what you are looking for...
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 superpimp
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Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: LOBO]
#570395 - 03/05/02 09:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Phalaris grass will grow just about anywhere, that stuff is bullit proof.
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lobo121782
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Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: superpimp]
#570468 - 03/05/02 11:24 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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I my self also live in a zone 4-5, and I would not recomend mimosa plant, this plant is mostly a tree and the time it takes to grow them is a little long, I will repost with a good plant that may be of intrest to you. thanks E
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lobo121782
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Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: lobo121782]
#570473 - 03/05/02 11:29 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well Here are some plants that grow alot better and faster,
Acacia spp. (Maiden's Wattle)
Anadenanthera spp. (Yopo)
Desmanthus illinoensis (Bundle Flower)
Phalaris Grass (Reed Canary Grass)
Psychotria viridis
Virola spp. (Epe?a)
I found out that these are the best to work with, I myself use to grow phalaris grass, and psychotria virids. the psychotria virids is the easyiest, all you have to do is make sure that they are waterloged all the time, you can never over water this plant. these are the plants that are found along the banks of the rivers and swamps. thanks E
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LOBO
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Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: lobo121782]
#571437 - 03/06/02 10:10 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for your list of plants, how good is phalaris grass to make an ayuasca analog?
If you have useed it in what proportions?, there is no clear method in the internet.
Thanks
PD I will probably be using it with sirian rue
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CuckoosNest
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 Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: LOBO]
#571502 - 03/06/02 11:25 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://digilander.iol.it/irimias/dmt_guide.html
That method is going to be your safest and easiet method for extraction. Ad below is a list of NNDMT and 5MEODMT percentages in different plants. Percentages come from the same site.
Alkaloids reported as (mg) per (100g) raw dried plant, and as percent of total plant source weight:
Acacia bark
0.71% NN-DMT
Acacia maidenii bark
0.36% NN-DMT
Acacia simplicifolia bark
0.86% NN-DMT
Mimosa hostilis root (bark)
0.57% NN-DMT
Virola shoots & flowers
0.44% NN-DMT
Desmanthus illinoensis root (bark)
0.34% NN-DMT
Pilocarpus organensis
1.06% 5-MeO-DMT
Phalaris tuberosa
0.10% NN-DMT
0.022% 5-MeO-DMT
0.005% 5-OH-DMT
Phalaris arundinacea ('net gossip)
0.060% NN-DMT
?? 5-MeO-DMT
Psychotria species (averaged, from Jonathan Ott)
0.200% NN-DMT
N,N-DMT DMT (N,N-dimethyltryptamine) is one of the most hallucinogenic compounds known. DMT is not active orally (unless in the form of an ayahuasca brew), but must be smoked in it's freebase form to experience its effects. (DMT can be taken orally when mixed with a MAOIs, but this is not recommended for the first time user.) The body quickly builds a tolerance for the drug. Your DMT dose must be taken within 60 seconds. Any more of the drug after this first minute will not enhance the experience. It is recommended to give at least one hour before attempting another DMT trip.
5-MeO-DMT Effects of 5-MeO-DMT are psychedelic without the visual distortions found in NN-DMT. 5-MeO-DMT is taken at 1/4 the dose of NN-DMT and will overpower the NN-DMT.
5-OH-DMT (Bufotenine) can cause severe physical discomfort including circulatory distress, nausea, psychological distress (panic and fear), severe skin flushing, and has the possibility of being fatal.
MAOI (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) will intensify and prolong the effects of NN-DMT, however this is never recommended. Foolish combinations of MAOIs and other drugs can lead to serious health problems and even death. The tryptamines are normally metabolized by an MAO in the body. MAO metabolizes serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine. By inhibiting this, MAOIs increase levels of those neurotransmitters. Tyramine will not be metabolized and will cause an increase in tyramine levels in the blood.
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CynicalMagician
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Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: CuckoosNest]
#571515 - 03/06/02 11:35 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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What about phalaris aquatica? I've heard it has higher content than the other two phalarises, but I've yet to find any stats on it.
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CynicalMagician
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Oh nevermind, apparently tuberosa and aquatica are the same thing. Stupid names.
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jonnyshaggs420
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Re: Zone 5 Dmt source plant? [Re: LOBO]
#572086 - 03/07/02 12:06 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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I live in zone 5 aswell......phalaris grows wild, here atleast (Colorado), desmanthus shouldn't be too far a cry to grow....a. columbrina shouldn't be a problem if you bring it in during the winter before the first frost.
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rommstein2001
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I only know one source for acacia simplicifolia(simplex) and the seeds are very rare, so very expensive. my source is $20/3 seeds. this is to keep only people who have the means to grow it growing, it is a pretty rare tree, but it may have the highest concentration of n,n,dmt in the plant kingdom. if you want the address for the seeds, pm me.
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